Sharing Uncapped with family?

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Jonno2343

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Hi guys
I have been wondering for a while now if you can share an uncapped account.
Say i got this: http://www.openweb.co.za/uncapped_adsl.php @ 512k for R1539, it comes with 5 static IP addresses, does that mean you could have 5 concurrent connections.
I.E. I have family in Cape Town and Johannesburg, could I share the uncapped account with them, or not?

If not, is there any way to do this, even with some extra hardware?

Thanks
Jonno
 
I don't think you can, cause from what I have seen, you can't have more than one connection, ie, the way you explained now, because if you could, I would share mine with 4 people and we all share the cost and they (ISP's) wouldn't make money.
 
I dont think so, with that uncapped they give you a router, so you wont have the login/password to give to the rest of your family
even if you took the uncapped express it still only allows 1 Concurrent Session :(

correct me if i'm wrong :?
 
You get one router and 5 static IP addresses for 5 different devices connected to that router.
 
You could of course get your family to connect to your router via cheap local only bandwidth and then surf via your line. But you'll need another router behind this and know how to set this up.
 
The easiest way is to create a PPTP VPN connection to your router. Make sure the remote XP/Vista connection has the option 'use remote gateway' ticked. This will force them to browse via your gateway which is your uncapped account.

You will need to create a PPTP VPN on your side though.

Bear in mind that the fastest speed for your remote users will be the upload speed of YOUR line.
 
The conditions usually say that you can't share and the ISP will not appreciate it if you try...the want you to buy a second a/c.
 
Aha, thanks Hilton.
Ok new idea :).
I live in an area of smallholdings with the houses all within a 2 km radius.
There are no government roads, so I'm not sure how the licensing would work, but what if I just split the cost of the uncapped and the 512kbps line (around R2000 a month) with the 10 people who would be interested, and then they either use a WRT-54G with a big antenna or maybe a Nanostation to connect to me.

Would that be possible? Set them all up under a bridged connection which connects through the IS router. Everyone pays R200 for uncapped 512kbps Internet.
Is this possible or am I talking absolute rubbish?
Any help would be greatly appreciated. :)

Thanks
Jonno
 
Jonno2343 said:
I just split the cost of the uncapped and the 512kbps line (around R2000 a month) with the 10 people who would be interested, and then they either use a WRT-54G with a big antenna or maybe a Nanostation to connect to me.
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Perhaps I was not clear in my above post. What you propose is ILLEGAL. And OpenWeb will in all likelihood sue you for big bucks if they find out & they will win.

5.4 The User shall not, without the express written permission of OpenISP CC, resell or make available to any third party such services as they might receive from OpenISP CC.
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By the way...Openweb monitors these forums...so good luck.
 
Oh, ok I never saw that there :0.
Didn't think it would be illegal...
Well thanks anyway, I was just wondering.
So is this possible in any other way with another ISP etc or must I just scrap the whole idea?

Thanks
Jonno
 
i am terrified of the ICASA, would never want to be on their bad side :)
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you know, just forget about the whole sceme. esp here, there's eyes everywhere. see them?
 
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Yeah, I have don't worry ;)
We will just have to stay back in the dark ages when it comes to internet. Oh well...
Surely there's gotta be a breakthrough in SA one day.
 
Tell me, what's the difference between these two scenarios;

1. I buy an uncapped DSL line from Datapro for my office and connect up all my PCs. I then have an office in the next building and use wireless to configure a bridged lan. These 'remote' users also use this DSL line for internet access. This is normal for a business.

2. Jonno gets an uncapped DSL line from Datapro and connects his users to his network and they in turn share the bandwidth.

If he's not charging then I don't see what the difference is?
 
hilton said:
Tell me, what's the difference between these two scenarios;

1. I buy an uncapped DSL line from Datapro for my office and connect up all my PCs. I then have an office in the next building and use wireless to configure a bridged lan. These 'remote' users also use this DSL line for internet access. This is normal for a business.

2. Jonno gets an uncapped DSL line from Datapro and connects his users to his network and they in turn share the bandwidth.

If he's not charging then I don't see what the difference is?
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Aside from the fact that the one is in breach of contract while the other is not you can also look at it from this angle:

1. 500 ABSA employees go to Mug'nBean and order bottomless coffee for business breakfast.
VS
2. ABSA employee #442 pours Mug'nBean's bottomless coffee into 50 thermos cans and takes it to his church congregation.
 
Jonno2343 said:
Oh, ok I never saw that there :0.
Didn't think it would be illegal...
Well thanks anyway, I was just wondering.
Jonno
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Its not illegal to share your connection with others, its just against
their Terms of Service or Terms of the Contract. If you did that,
they could (and would surely) terminate your contract. I don't think
that anyone would sue you though.
 
i mean in context of sharing your internet connection via wifi. that would classify you as a wisp and there are special licences to obtain to stay within the guideline the authoroty set out for everyone, even the major isp's.
all that said, does anyone want to point out the flaws of creating a vpn? 2 or less users could maybe cope sharing 512kbit, but 10 ppl, heck dailup would be faster. :)
 
Ok, I see. So it's not illegal, it's a breach of contract.
I was thinking of a VPN, but no-one seemed to be able to help me on how to set it up.
At work we have an uncapped wireless connection that is organised by Digital Dynamix, I was hoping to be able to connect to that from home and use that for internet, but no-one could tell me how I would go about setting that up.
We have a Win2k3 server that we use, so I'm sure it can't be too hard to set up.
Anyone have some ideas?
 
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