Shocking support from WA billings

Fulton17

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I need to highlight one part of many issues that I have had with WA billing department including the Head of that department.

A bit of background. I pay with my credit card - WA has a debit on my account. During school holidays I normally up my cap. I believe that if you pay for something, you are entitled to a reasonable service and should deal with the issue if it is not received. WA claims to be one of the best and I feel needs to live up to that.

Due to previous billing issues I was told to ensure my request to increase or decrease my cap was done by 20th of the prior month. This I did in March when I went from 3 gig to 5 gig for April.

On 15 April I emailed support and asked for 5 gig to go to 3 gig from May (even though I had made this quite clear in March). Very quick and pleasant response from support saying all done.

On 22 April my account stops working. Phone support - I have reached my cap of 3 gig!! I mention that it is actually a 5 gig account and the team leader then sees it is but WA has been having problems with upgrades and downgrades and this is a system error - tough break for me. Anyway this eventually gets sorted out and during one of these conversations I explain clearly to the team leader that in May I am back to 3 gigs and need to be billed accordingly. He says yes, no problem at all is on the system.

On 23 April my credit card is charged for April even though it should have gone through at start of month. Long call to Head of Billing on that day and am told it is due to the fact that I am paying with my credit card and date of payment can not be guaranteed because WA waits until they have enough CC to process.

On 26th April I get an invoice for May charging me for a 5 gig account!!!!! I send an email to Head of Billings including the email from support on the 15th and mentioning my discussion with a team leader on 22nd all stating a 3 gig account for May. 2 day later I get a brief reply - and I quote part of it "It seems our agents our misunderstanding your need here. Please confirm, would you like the current 5gb account downgraded to a 3gb account as of 1 May 09"!!! This after I have also stated in my email a 3 gig account from May.

I responded to this mail over 48 hours ago and have still not received any reply. In this mail I asked for someone senior from WA to contact me, but I think that is unlikely (maybe after this??)

The amount of time and energy I have wasted with WA in the last few days is shocking considering I have done everything correctly on the 15th; then telephonically on the 22nd, and in emails to the Manager of Billings and still they mess up. I wish I could bill them for my time!!! Maybe this might improve service levels.

I have tried to give WA many opportunities to sort out this matter, but they have left me no choice but to make this public. Maybe now I will get some service.
 
I'm confused just by reading all of this. :confused: What was it you wanted again?
 
I'm confused just by reading all of this. :confused: What was it you wanted again?

apparently 3g cap to 5g cap and then to 3cap again.

there is however the magical topup function on cap accounts which i just use instead of the whole account changing, or a secondary prepaid account with cap account.

one should however, notify billing as well of the change and make sure that both accounts and billing know that you are changing (phone through, and then follow up with mail stating the telephonic conversation that both parties know what is going on and has it on record), that much I have learn out of experience.
 
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1. Pays by credit card.
2. Upgraded to 5GB for April. (Holdays)
3. Asked that May's package be 3GB 20 April.
4. He is capped.
5. Investigates : WA set April Package to 3GB instead of May package.
6. WA is phoned to fix. WA Fixes and sets April back to 5GB package.
7. He is charged for a 5GB package for May.

Awesome!
 
<snip>one should however, notify billing as well of the change and make sure that both accounts and billing know that you are changing (phone through, and then follow up with mail stating the telephonic conversation that both parties know what is going on and has it on record), that much I have learn out of experience.
Yea, that's what good service is all about, you, the customer must chase your service provider.
No.
 
Yea, that's what good service is all about, you, the customer must chase your service provider.
No.

obviously support was suppose to do all that, but nowadays its unfortunately how it works in some cases. we yet to hear webafrica's side of the story.

1. Pays by credit card.
2. Upgraded to 5GB for April. (Holdays)
3. Asked that May's package be 3GB 20 April.
4. He is capped.
5. Investigates : WA set April Package to 3GB instead of May package.
6. WA is phoned to fix. WA Fixes and sets April back to 5GB package.
7. He is charged for a 5GB package for May.

Awesome!

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Follow on

My main issue is with incorrect billings even after I have communicated via email and telephonically. I tried to give detail so that people could see that I really have wasted a lot of time and effort on something that should be quick and easy for a high tech company. Yes, in the dark ages I could understand some of these problems, but computers should really limit seriously these poor service levels.

My secondary issue - and really an aside - was being capped at 3 gig due to other system errors on the 22nd even though I had a 5 gig account.

Garyvdh - sorry for the confusion. Hope the above helps clarify.

I really do not see why I - as a paying customer - should have to spend some much time and effort managing my account. Surely if Web Africa wants to be the best then they should be providing all round excellence?
 
Why don't you just stay at 3 gig and top up as and when needed? I too would get confused.
 
I've also had issues with their billing department recently. It is as if they do not listen to what you tell them.

It helps if you log a ticket via the web and if you don't like the answer or they don't do what you've asked, give a thumbs-down rating.

I'll give them another month. If these issues continue, I'm switching to another provider.
 
Why don't you just stay at 3 gig and top up as and when needed? I too would get confused.

The scotsman in me says why waste money? 3 gig is R 200; 5 gig is R 290 and 3 gig + 2 gig top up is R 340. My income requires me to try and conserve were possible and considering the excessive costs for broadband in this country I do not want to waste any more money on it.

And also if a company offers a service, they should be able to serve it properly i.m.h.o :)
 
o we yet to hear webafrica's side of the story.


Yes, I am still waiting to hear Web Africa's side of the story - guess the public holiday and long weekend has seen all their reps away so... we wait.
 
Yes, I am still waiting to hear Web Africa's side of the story - guess the public holiday and long weekend has seen all their reps away so... we wait.

i myself had to remind them yesterday to reset my cap; bit annoying but this was the first time i had to remind webafrica that hey its the beginning the month why hasn't my account reset...
 
Still waiting for a response Web Africa or are you just hoping this will go away if you ignore it?
 
If you had just topped up the easy way everything would have been fine for you in the next month, but you went and made things difficult and now you sitting with a problem you made and blaming WA. So what if most of all the staff was on holiday for the long weekends we have been having, they also have lives and families to go too. Most will think that its not your problem, but then you people are the snobish ones who will moan about the smallest thing and say anything in your defence.

Maybe the people who do this should let us know which company you all work for so we can come give you a hard time at the place where you work and give you something to do maybe around christmas time when you all off, then i can say" i'm the customer I WANT it on the 25 December" , because i am almost certain that every company also have their mishaps.

I have a feeling (cannot be sure) that maybe because MWEB stopped their local uncapped, and because web africa is cheap on supplying local accounts, that most of all MWEB account holders moved over to web africa to get more for less again. This could be a reason why web africa might not be able to cope so well in last few months.
And if web africa is saying they on a new system or what ever, they probaly putting it in place to make things better. And yes sometimes things might not work out as planned and this sometimes happens. Web africa is not going to tell you they can't handle everyone. I think when they find a way to manage, things will improve because it was not always like this "appearently".
 
If you had just topped up the easy way everything would have been fine for you in the next month, but you went and made things difficult and now you sitting with a problem you made and blaming WA. So what if most of all the staff was on holiday for the long weekends we have been having, they also have lives and families to go too. Most will think that its not your problem, but then you people are the snobish ones who will moan about the smallest thing and say anything in your defence.

Maybe the people who do this should let us know which company you all work for so we can come give you a hard time at the place where you work and give you something to do maybe around christmas time when you all off, then i can say" i'm the customer I WANT it on the 25 December" , because i am almost certain that every company also have their mishaps.

So, basically I - as a customer - must do what is best for the company and not me. So I guess the customer is not king! Hence why we have such bad service in SA

If you read my initial post you will see that I changed my cap on the 15th (email to support and quick reply from support stating change made), and have followed up with phone call on 22nd. In addition I have emailed Head of Billings twice, so I do think I have done everything in my power prior to this public issue. Maybe hoping to get it resolved over a long weekend is a big ask, but considering some staff would have been working at WA over the long weekend it would have just been great to get some response.

I am a teacher and if it makes you feel any better, I too get my share of complaints to deal with. These are opportunities for me to see what I can do to be a better teacher, and if valid, I must deal with and learn.

I will not drop my standards just because some business may battle to process my request. If you can not deliver, do not advertise a product.
 
Well, I have received a response to my issues and for now, I think things have been sorted out. I am not happy with some of the reasons given as every time there is an issue, the goalposts seem to move.

I am sorry I had to resort to public forum to get this done, but maybe this will mean that WA will take these matters more seriously and up their game.
 
Hi Fulton17,

Firstly, again my humble apologies for the delay in responding to your mail pertaining the issues mentioned within your posts. I have been quite busy as of late with a bunch of developments hoping to improve upon our billing and general systems, which in the end I hope will only benefit our client. I had seen your mail today and immediately responded.

As per my response to you, the ADSL department indeed took care of the downgrade as you'd requested, the billing, yes was unattended to. Once the adsl department upgrades or downgrades an account, the billing department is to be alerted in order to ensure any billing amendments are made where necessary. I will be sure to follow this up with the adsl consultants involved in the matter to see where what went wrong.

I will also schedule a meeting with the adsl manager w.r.t the matter at hand in the hopes of ensuring issues like this do not pop up in future.
 
So, basically I - as a customer - must do what is best for the company and not me. So I guess the customer is not king! Hence why we have such bad service in SA

If you read my initial post you will see that I changed my cap on the 15th (email to support and quick reply from support stating change made), and have followed up with phone call on 22nd. In addition I have emailed Head of Billings twice, so I do think I have done everything in my power prior to this public issue. Maybe hoping to get it resolved over a long weekend is a big ask, but considering some staff would have been working at WA over the long weekend it would have just been great to get some response.

I am a teacher and if it makes you feel any better, I too get my share of complaints to deal with. These are opportunities for me to see what I can do to be a better teacher, and if valid, I must deal with and learn.

I will not drop my standards just because some business may battle to process my request. If you can not deliver, do not advertise a product.

No i'm not saying only do what is best for the company only, but compremising is key. Most companies really do care about their customers they have to otherwise they lose business. regardless of how much the company does well for you in the past with out any hiccups, it only takes one situation for you to break all ties imeadiatly, i find this to be very unfair.

I know we all spend money and thats the reason we complain when something effects our wallet aswell as time wasted and the inconvenience. But it was'nt a problem the whole time you were with the company
There is this flawed unfairness between a company and its customers, where the company has to care, and the customer does'nt. I know for a fact that everyone in the whole of south africa does not care for any company that had to go away, they will be like "oh well i'll have to find something else". To be honust if a company had been doing so well with that said person from the begining and a slight bump would mean that person turning around and kicking them in the back even though the company has been helping them all this time, to me that is really not a nice person. I dont tell my girlfriend i will find a new one when she does something wrong, if she had to turn out to really be a pain in the butt then yes i would. You not dealing with a company, your dealing with people, and human nature makes mistakes now and then.

Be prepared because web africa aswell as others are going to make another mistake with you sometime or another, it happens and it cannot be perfect in the world you want it to be in.
 
No i'm not saying only do what is best for the company only, but compremising is key. Most companies really do care about their customers they have to otherwise they lose business. regardless of how much the company does well for you in the past with out any hiccups, it only takes one situation for you to break all ties imeadiatly, i find this to be very unfair.

Trust me if it only took one situation to break ties with WA, I would have found a new ISP quite a while ago!!

Anyway the matter is at last resolved and life will continue to go on. It would appear that they want to learnt from their mistakes and improve, so well done to WA
 
Trust me if it only took one situation to break ties with WA, I would have found a new ISP quite a while ago!!

Anyway the matter is at last resolved and life will continue to go on. It would appear that they want to learnt from their mistakes and improve, so well done to WA
Yet again an assumption from wHiTe*LiGhTnInG that this is a one time stuff up. He tried the same thing in my thread :rolleyes:
 
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