Should I learn to code?

Scary_Turtle said:
What am I talking "kaka" about?

As a senior pentester yes you need all the above but by the time you are considered senior you have 5 years experience and many certs.

I can see from what you have written you know nothing about security or working in a security team.
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5 years of IT experience is nothing.You still a noob.There is no ways you will be an expert in all those fields.In fact you can have 20 years IT experience and wont be an expert in all those various fields.
 
ubercal said:
5 years of IT experience is nothing.You still a noob.There is no ways you will be an expert in all those fields.In fact you can have 20 years IT experience and wont be an expert in all those various fields.
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Agreed.
 
Priapus said:
Here's my unpopular opinion on this; because I have had people ask me this a few times, since I am a developer.

If you have no interest in programming / coding - don't do it. You'll either:

- Give up before you even start
- Be mediocre at the job and might give it up as a career
- Really hate the job

Coding isn't for everyone. I've had friends ask me what they need to do to get starting coding, and I've see it time and time again, they all gave up before making a proper go of it, because their only motive was money and they quickly lost interest in the idea.

However...

Do give it a try, and see if its something you actually enjoy. If you find it boring and don't like it after a few months of giving it a go; seriously consider something else.
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Many fools came rushing into the IT space, since the late 1990s already. It began with the idiotic MCSE ads on the radio back in '98 promising the fools that they could "earn big bucks" by getting into IT
 
PaulMurkin said:
Many fools came rushing into the IT space, since the late 1990s already. It began with the idiotic MCSE ads on the radio back in '98 promising the fools that they could "earn big bucks" by getting into IT
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Yeah and most of the time; guys don’t earn big bucks, unless you specialize. The market is saturated in the general IT sector these days.
 
ubercal said:
5 years of IT experience is nothing.You still a noob.There is no ways you will be an expert in all those fields.In fact you can have 20 years IT experience and wont be an expert in all those various fields.
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You never answered my question.

I said senior not expert.... as a senior you earn more money as your hourly rate is drastically increased over a junior.

I'm not sure what you are even arguing because you haven't made a case or told me what I am talking "kaka" about.
 
Learn how to code. However, if you want to earn more money, you need to learn how to communicate. Making people understand what you want and understanding what they want will boost your earnings. I guarantee you that the top earners in a company are all good communicators.
 
Bumperstickers

@Romy Hedwig I hope you don't mind me hijacking your thread.

My niece matriculated this year and she wants to code.

As the only IT person in our immediate family she approoached me for advice.

Now, her parents (I would say) fall in the low to middle class income tier, so I'm really looking for something cheap for a complete beginner to start out with.

Do you guys have any advice? I graduated 20 years ago from a formal qualification, but having spent just the last couple of hours doing a bit of research, the options are overwhelming!

I literally have no idea where to even begin. Bear in mind, I'll be willing to chip in where her parents fall short so I'm not looking for something free (WeThinkCode is too confusing a model for me to understand anyway), but something that's relatively cheap.
 
The_Ogre said:
Bumperstickers

@Romy Hedwig I hope you don't mind me hijacking your thread.

My niece matriculated this year and she wants to code.

As the only IT person in our immediate family she approoached me for advice.

Now, her parents (I would say) fall in the low to middle class income tier, so I'm really looking for something cheap for a complete beginner to start out with.

Do you guys have any advice? I graduated 20 years ago from a formal qualification, but having spent just the last couple of hours doing a bit of research, the options are overwhelming!

I literally have no idea where to even begin. Bear in mind, I'll be willing to chip in where her parents fall short so I'm not looking for something free (WeThinkCode is too confusing a model for me to understand anyway), but something that's relatively cheap.
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My order of preference from best to worse:
BSc CS + 2nd Major, BSc CS, remote CS through UNISA or other properly accredited online degree provider, self study of degree material, boot camp (eg WeThinkCode), self study of non-degree material (usually, web dev).

There are scholarships and bursaries available for degrees, although obviously not all that easy to get these days.
 
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