SNO - International Bandwidth

sunsoffun

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I dont think that there is a sortage of bandwidth within the South African borders (thats why I carnt understand the hard cap... another story all togther)... but where is the SNO going to get its international bandwidth? :confused:

Are they going to be at the mercey of Telkom??? :mad: Another question, if there going to be.... any news to the nationalisation of the Underwater cable?

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Have a look at the new terrabit fiber optic cable linking Europe with Singapore, which the SNO (VSNL) is a shareholder of.
http://www.seamewe4.com/

If Telkom holds them ransom they would probably look at connecting the east coast of Africa (including South Africa) with this terrabit fiber link. I think there is already something like this in the pipeline called EASSY.

http://eassy.org/globalConn.htm (The red cable is the new planned EASSY cable. The existing orange SEA-ME-WE3 cable will shortly be replaced by the SEA-ME-WE4.
 
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VSNL is also one of the shareholders of the SAT3 cable which we use. afaik telkom has exclusive access to the 2 landing stations of this cable in SA (hence exclusive access to the cable here) and thats where the problem comes in
 
Hope SAT3 will be unbundled soon.

In case of other country, those kind of cables are in possession of the government.
 
7. Telkom South Africa

That's under investors, so don't get your hopes up
 
With Vodacom and Sentech also listed as investors. So if the SNO is held ransom by Telkom they can always opt for an agreement with Sentech.
 
Are the leases on the landing point that Telkom control, coming to a end soon? Which will mean that VSNL will be able to bid?
 
I heard that the SNO will run their international link through Europe then onto the rest of the world. That is the way MTN NS are doing it - not sure how they get away with their own link, when Telkom own the landing points?
 
Not satellite. I heard they will have a fibre run up to Europe somewhere - then hook into the rest of the world from there.
 
They probably are running through Telkoms landing point but own bandwidth on either side.

My conspiracy theory is that the SNO already has land based fibre running up all the way through africa along power lines (Eskom supplies much of Afrika). They've probably landed in Europe already and just need their license / landing permission to connect it to the local network.
 
doobiwan said:
They probably are running through Telkoms landing point but own bandwidth on either side.

My conspiracy theory is that the SNO already has land based fibre running up all the way through africa along power lines (Eskom supplies much of Afrika). They've probably landed in Europe already and just need their license / landing permission to connect it to the local network.


Bit optimistic are we?
 
Franna said:
If Telkom holds them ransom they would probably look at connecting the east coast of Africa (including South Africa) with this terrabit fiber link. I think there is already something like this in the pipeline called EASSY.

http://eassy.org/globalConn.htm (The red cable is the new planned EASSY cable. The existing orange SEA-ME-WE3 cable will shortly be replaced by the SEA-ME-WE4.

rofl this is from eassy.org first paragraph about the project..

siteProject Overview ::

The easy cable is a fully integrated multi-technology network. It is an undersea fiber optic cable
that will link the countries of East Africa to the rest of the world.
As the term implies,the EASSy project secretariat shall be the adminstrative center and the premises of the EASSy project which for the time is located at the Telkom Kenya premises in Nairobi,Kenya.
 
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Well as far as I remember Eskom has electrical lines to a couple of our neighbouring countries, why not build a landing point in Mozambique and dodge Telkom completely?
 
VSNL has a huge chunk of almost every major undersea cable - including sat3. They own Tyco and are buying Teleglobe (http://www.teleglobe.com/en/our_network/global_data_network_reach.asp).

Give them landing rights and in theory telecommunications costs would drop. Then again they wouldn't make as much money. Restrict availability to a scarce resource and drive the price up.

Anyone who believes that SNO is going to save the country is surely kidding themselves. The sno is coming to make money - not friends. The only thing that can help this country is the same thing that has helped every other country that was in a similar situation (eg UK & USA) and that is a strong regulator.
 
@ bwana v.5 - I have to agree with you that the SNO will not cause prices to drop much, maybe better / faster broadband. But I am not hoping / expecting better prices out of them.
 
The SNO is just a distraction, the problem is the cost NOW, not tomorrow, or the day there after, NOW!

The SNO's gonna come to town and little will change as the precedent has already been set and all they will have to do is get on the gravy train.

It's quite apparent that both our regulator and our government are dead set on doing nothing to curb Telkom's antics.
 
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