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Guys, with all this talk of the SNO finally being implemented, what sort of timeframe are we looking at for the roll out? I've heard some guys on other forums talking about 5-7 years.

The reason I ask is that for many people here, iBurst is being used only because it isn't Telkom. I'm sure that were the SNO up and running many disgruntled iBurst users would switch over. Basically I'm asking how long we have to put up with iBurst...
 
hah it hasn't even launched yet and you're already sick of it :p
I am sticking with it till I see something faster or something with good speeds and no cap.
As to the question, I heard a year to start using the telkom infrustructure and 4 to have thier own.

competition is always a good thing... but what if the new operator is just as crap as telkom, that just screws us for another 10 - 20.
 
I'm gonna take the middle road & agree with both BlueCollar & Slimothy - iBurst was great, but as we all know the instability albeit not everywhere is killing iBurst's usefulness as a broadband technology alternative to Telkomonopoly. I do hope that WBS get things sorted, just as I hope that one day Sentech stop messing their customers around (and perhaps get some competition in the signal distribution sector & then get privatised :p @ Sentechmonopoly).

Now about the SNO, if they go WiMax [LOL as if] then they could be fairly quick to market within 12..18 months or so.

If the SNO relies on the local-copper-loop infrastructure (that Telkomonopoly owns & will fiercly fight to keep) for last mile, then you are looking at a considerably longer timeframe - at least 24..60 months before the SNO can provide widespread services - mostly to businesses & residential much later towards the 42nd month.

SNO longhaul should be ok if they use all this dark fibre already on the power lines, as well as Transtel etc.

International bandwidth - that's where the SNO needs Tata influence over SAT3, but it should be slightly better from April 2006 when we might see a reduction in SAT3 overcharging. If SNOTata could get some international bandwidth on the touted East African coast cable Kenya..Durban then that will help a bit as well - but it is a longer interconnected route to USA & Europe...
 
I think the SNO would be wise to use available wireless technology rather than have to rely on creating a Telkom-esque infrastructure.

They could get into VOIP in a massive way via wireless technology. Possibly they could partner with one of our three cellphone networks - perhaps Cell-c - that would make huge sense in terms of infrastructure rollout.

Couple that with Eskoms infrastructure and you've got a ready made hi-tech base on which to build your services.

The trick for the SNO will be to avoid having to use Telkoms infrastructure as much as possible.
 
Think OUTSIDE the box for a change please :

My opinions (usually formulated by research FIRST) is that the SNO could become operational within 12 months. What services they'll be able to have by then is unclear. There is (as far as I know) a clause in the contract that they have to use some of Telkom's infrastructure while they start up. So having telephonic services in the near future is a possibility.

Now for my "out of the box" thinking :
The SNO already owns a sizeable portion of the SAT3 cable. If they're able to undercut pricing and sell international bandwidth at a cheaper rate to ALL the backbone providers (Like IS, MTNNS, UUNET etc) they will coin enough to actually further finance the big expense of rolling out their network (faster) and be able to turn profit sooner.

This will mean that bandwidth would become cheaper for everyone, cheaper bandwidth HOPEFULLY will mean cheaper internet. iBurst on a good day without a cap is what I'd go for till the SNO have 8mbit ADSL available :D
 
when 8mbit adsl is commonplace here, 150mbit will be commonplace elsewhere :(
 
noone said:
Think OUTSIDE the box for a change please :

My opinions (usually formulated by research FIRST) is that the SNO could become operational within 12 months. What services they'll be able to have by then is unclear. There is (as far as I know) a clause in the contract that they have to use some of Telkom's infrastructure while they start up. So having telephonic services in the near future is a possibility.

Now for my "out of the box" thinking :
The SNO already owns a sizeable portion of the SAT3 cable. If they're able to undercut pricing and sell international bandwidth at a cheaper rate to ALL the backbone providers (Like IS, MTNNS, UUNET etc) they will coin enough to actually further finance the big expense of rolling out their network (faster) and be able to turn profit sooner.

This will mean that bandwidth would become cheaper for everyone, cheaper bandwidth HOPEFULLY will mean cheaper internet. iBurst on a good day without a cap is what I'd go for till the SNO have 8mbit ADSL available :D
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Get back in your box dammit !

:D

I like your optimism - definately required for living in Africa without going completely crazy ! ;) (you need to be a bit nuts tho)
 
noone said:
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The SNO already owns a sizeable portion of the SAT3 cable. If they're able to undercut pricing and sell international bandwidth at a cheaper rate to ALL the backbone providers (Like IS, MTNNS, UUNET etc) they will coin enough to actually further finance the big expense of rolling out their network (faster) and be able to turn profit sooner.
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Ok, just one problem with that - The SAT3 Bandwidth Illuminati Shareholders Agreement [shadow crawler organisation] which is rumoured to basically prevent other shareholders from doing pretty much anything - including reduced rate SAT3 bandwidth... oh and Telkomonopoly is rumoured to head that organisation...
 
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