So I got a job offer

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killerbyte

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Long story short...
I moved to the UK in Feb after getting a job at a VoIP software company.
I never had any plans to look for another job, but a couple of weeks ago I got a call from a recruiter with a job that pays 20% more, and I get to manage the 3CX PBXes of 300 different companies, and help deploy to more customers. I love 3CX so the job excites me.
My reason to move is purely financial, but really love 3CX...

BUT

What IF my current employer matches the offer? I am actually starting to enjoy my job even though at first I felt overwhelmed and completely out of my depth. Current company is busy creating a new product which is exciting. My role is helpdesk manager which actually sees me doing a lot of the work for our resellers, rather than them reporting software issues to us since we are a software vendor. So it isn't the role I envisioned.
So I am in two minds about what to do.
 
killerbyte said:
Long story short...
I moved to the UK in Feb after getting a job at a VoIP software company.
I never had any plans to look for another job, but a couple of weeks ago I got a call from a recruiter with a job that pays 20% more, and I get to manage the 3CX PBXes of 300 different companies, and help deploy to more customers. I love 3CX so the job excites me.
My reason to move is purely financial, but really love 3CX...

BUT

What IF my current employer matches the offer? I am actually starting to enjoy my job even though at first I felt overwhelmed and completely out of my depth. Current company is busy creating a new product which is exciting. My role is helpdesk manager which actually sees me doing a lot of the work for our resellers, rather than them reporting software issues to us since we are a software vendor. So it isn't the role I envisioned.
So I am in two minds about what to do.
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Others can chime in but your current employer will only match if you allow them the opportunity you can resign with zero input from your employer.

Just bear in mind that you can play this game once, you have also lost a lot of trust etc if you do this.

In all honesty if you like the other one enough go dont play this game of playing them off against each other likely wont end well - rarely does.
 
20% before or after tax? It can make quite a difference.
My rule has always been to not move to a different company for less than 30% gross.
 
Tough choice and a lot of unknowns. What is the long term potential(financial and skills growth) for your role in either business keeping in mind that annual increases are relatively low which would necessitate a promotion to reach that 20%(can’t bank on that IF)
If there is an agent involved I would see if there is budget for a higher amount. It’s in the employers interest to pitch low and work up.
 
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Paul Kemp said:
Tough choice and a lot of unknowns. What is the long term potential(financial and skills growth) for your role in either business keeping in mind that annual increases are relatively low which would necessitate a promotion to reach that 20%(can’t bank on that IF)
If there is an agent involved I would see if there is budget for a higher amount. It’s in the employers interest to pitch low and work up.
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They pitched £1k pa less than I told the recruiter I wanted, especially since the difference between what they offered and what I wanted is the extra travelling cost to their office (once a week in London).
I am pretty much in a role that can't be promoted, the other role could potentially be promoted to manager or team lead of the VoIP dept, and because the company is in London the salaries usually sit on the higher end of the spectrum.
 
Messugga said:
20% before or after tax? It can make quite a difference.
My rule has always been to not move to a different company for less than 30% gross.
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Before.
For me it would mean banking £500 pm extra into my savings (My goals are to save for my GF to move over when she is my wife, which means I have to save for ring and wedding, so the more money I can save the better).
 
Snyper564 said:
Others can chime in but your current employer will only match if you allow them the opportunity you can resign with zero input from your employer.

Just bear in mind that you can play this game once, you have also lost a lot of trust etc if you do this.

In all honesty if you like the other one enough go dont play this game of playing them off against each other likely wont end well - rarely does.
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I generally believe in staying put for a while, but this is such an immediate jump in salary which will help my short term and medium term goals greatly.
I have zero intention of playing them off each other, if my current employer makes an offer I will consider it, but I won't go telling the other guys to better it.
 
killerbyte said:
They pitched £1k pa less than I told the recruiter I wanted, especially since the difference between what they offered and what I wanted is the extra travelling cost to their office (once a week in London).
I am pretty much in a role that can't be promoted, the other role could potentially be promoted to manager or team lead of the VoIP dept, and because the company is in London the salaries usually sit on the higher end of the spectrum.
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Sounds like you already made up your mind to go to the new company, only thing holding you back is that you got comfortable in the old position.

London-based bonus:
- interesting work
- growth opportunity in the career direction that interests
- higher salary

Negatives:
- you've only been at the new company for 4 months, if you do this jump, you can't jump again for 3/4 years
- old role is comfortable, established

Personally, I made that move after 1 year after emigrating, in the new company for nearly 2 months now, 38% gross jump, both paid well, with main reason for moving being growth opportunities (both salary and career). I have no intention of leaving before 3 year mark though, and I got lucky that my team is great, and company culture suits me pretty well.
 
Mike Hoxbig said:
You're currently in a support role. I would do anything except support...
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Its supposed to be support for resellers of our product who know the product and just need help with a bug or a weird deployment. Alas the resellers techs use us to do the **** they too lazy to do, and try as I might I cannot seem to get it through their heads that is not what we are here to do.
Then there is the guy who calls rather than sending a ticket, only for us to tell him to send in a ticket. FML
 
Johnatan56 said:
Sounds like you already made up your mind to go to the new company, only thing holding you back is that you got comfortable in the old position.

London-based bonus:
- interesting work
- growth opportunity in the career direction that interests
- higher salary

Negatives:
- you've only been at the new company for 4 months, if you do this jump, you can't jump again for 3/4 years
- old role is comfortable, established

Personally, I made that move after 1 year after emigrating, in the new company for nearly 2 months now, 38% gross jump, both paid well, with main reason for moving being growth opportunities (both salary and career). I have no intention of leaving before 3 year mark though, and I got lucky that my team is great, and company culture suits me pretty well.
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New company just merged with another company. Other company had no existing IT team (or they fired them all), so the number of branches is doubled, and therefore there is a workload that will grow and present the opportunity for a larger team and therefore a promotion.

Did I mention new company gives a bonus, 30 days leave (excluding bank holidays), and private dental and pension?
 
The London job sounds better in every respect. Even odd that your current employer isn’t offering you those benefits too. Tech skills are hard to find so at a minimum your employer should be offering that to hold onto staff.

Sidenote: Are you/you gf traditional in that you are waiting to get married before she moves? Two incomes make a big difference to savings goals.
 
killerbyte said:
New company just merged with another company. Other company had no existing IT team (or they fired them all), so the number of branches is doubled, and therefore there is a workload that will grow and present the opportunity for a larger team and therefore a promotion.

Did I mention new company gives a bonus, 30 days leave (excluding bank holidays), and private dental and pension?
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Done deal.

Once you're done interviewing them (yes, they think they're interviewing you but in reality, you're evaluating them), if everything is legit and you're happy that they are a fit for you, sounds like a no-brainer.
 
Paul Kemp said:
The London job sounds better in every respect. Even odd that your current employer isn’t offering you those benefits too. Tech skills are hard to find so at a minimum your employer should be offering that to hold onto staff.

Sidenote: Are you/you gf traditional in that you are waiting to get married before she moves? Two incomes make a big difference to savings goals.
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She is still studying, but with the increased cost of studies in SA we are considering her moving her to finish her studies (two years left for law in SA, but its one year in UK).
 
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