Solution to all broadband problems

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The solution to all our problems is simple. Move to the UK.

This is the latest offer from Wanadoo Broadband in the UK:
Sign up instore to Orange Your Plan 120 and above and you'll receive your first two months of Wanadoo Broadband 512k for only £5, plus you'll receive a free modem with free connection. Then it's only £17.99 a month for full speed broadband - that's up to 10 times faster than dial up Internet.

http://www.orange.co.uk/wanadoo/



Cape Town 128K 16% Tower 22(Salt River)
 
LOL! WHO the fsk needs weather if one can get out of this SA ****hole?

Fantasy is what people want, reality is what they need.
 
It's only a shtihole because of Telkom and Sentech :)

<font color="navy"><font size="1"><b>Where others have progress, we have Telkom.</b>
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<blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by Wireless2</i>
<br />And they include the S**t weather for free
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So come to Canada. We have terrific weather. Summers are hot so you can swim and stuff, and the winters we get lots of snow for snowboarding, skiing, etc. :)

(Ignore the -50 C winds)
 
Some day soon we are going to have to if things continue spiralling downwards towards a corrupt Nigeria style country.

Is it really hot in summer in Canada? Everyone thinks its just cold there forever.
 
Now you guys are starting on the wrong topic...let's face it. we may not live in Europe but I'd rather be without the Internet than leave Africa, let alone South Africa.

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The true test of character is not how much we know how to do, but how we behave when we don't know what to do.
John Holt
 
Ditto, I like it here and would rather stay and try to help build a better SA, despite the "rough edges". In spite of popular sentiment of an alleged "downward spiral", the actual facts and evidence when analysing the country's indicators don't support this allegation at all.
 
Jerrek, you sure you're in Canada??????? Ive still got frostbite after being there 6 years ago...

Cape Town 128K 16% Tower 22(Salt River)
 
downward spiral? well.. nobody seems to be doing anything about crime, telcos, unemployment, education. I dont care if they say they are doing stuff.. we are seeing nothing.

Instead of spending over R1billion on AIDS (where does it go?) they should build more and improve the schools and empower the younger generation with the passion of technology instead of making them think about AIDS,crime,poverty etc. Of course, only the elite have access to technology thanks to the powers that BE(E).

Its a really super place but if they fixed just a few things then within 10 years SA could be a world leader and its not difficult stuff to fix.
 
<blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by greedyflyza</i>
<br />downward spiral? well.. nobody seems to be doing anything about crime, telcos, unemployment, education. I dont care if they say they are doing stuff.. we are seeing nothing.
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You are seeing nothing because you aren't looking, there is tonnes of stuff going on in the country, not just by government but by NGOs, charities, individuals, communities, etc.
http://www.sabcnews.com/south_africa/education/0,2172,82842,00.html
("Dinaledi" means "stars" btw)
http://www.sabcnews.com/south_africa/education/0,2172,82311,00.html
http://www.safrica.info/doing_business/businesstoday/businessnews/325801.htm
http://www.capetimes.co.za/index.php?fSectionId=271&fArticleId=2126891
http://allafrica.com/stories/200406240239.html
OK, our new education minister Naledi Pandor seems to be on the ball.

It's totally true that many of our MPs are just fools riding the gravy train, but by and large to say there is "nothing happening" or that there is a "downward spiral" is ridiculous and none of the indicators support it (except perhaps the increased unemployment), but there are plenty of things going on, people and groups of people working within their own communities to improve their own lot (rather than waiting for govnment to do it all). Our economy has experienced a record period of growth, and the growth is projected to continue increasing in the coming years. In spite of the likes of Telkom and various useless government members and industry groups, things are moving forward. Crime, poverty, education, unemployment - these things are all related. Regardless of the government, the most important thing is to try get unemployment decline to exceed the population growth rate. Then it's an upward spiral. Better economy = more money to spend on better police force, less crime = more efficient economy, more efficient economy = more money for education, more skills, lower unemployment, etc. Our problem is we expect everything handed to us, so we 'like moving to the UK' because they like our cheap hard-working labour so they pat us on the heads say "nice South African, come work for cheap", and we wag our tails excitedly like dogs. Nothing wrong with that if that's all you want out of life. The scope of the poverty problem in this country is frightening though, and we don't realise it, in our comfortable white worlds we fret about how schools should have broadband access, when you listen to the local black radio stations it makes the news when schools get *running water*. Why wait for government if you want to do something about SAn education? Volunteer; take one day out a week and go help teach/tutor maths or science in the townships, there are opportunities to do this, yet you almost never see white SAns doing it, and frankly it's embarassing that when you see anyone doing volunteer work in SA it's almost always either a local black person or a foreign white person. If you don't want to spend any time doing it just donate a tiny amount of disposable income to a scholarship fund like http://www.mathabane.com/scholarship2.htm. Why yes that is a chip on my shoulder.
 
The problem is not really a research incompetency (the clearly obvious resultant of which is an unqualified and incorrect viewpoint), but instead an inherent distinction between 'me' and 'them', or 'we' and 'they', probably caused by a past emphasis on income, cultural and racial differences. The tragedy of it all is that emphasis _must_ instead be placed on aspects of commonality and issues of common interest - after all, we are all SAns, not so? I do _not_ consider myself as part of the 'we' as presented by GREEDYFLYZA (other than as a member of the MyADSL community), but as part of the 'them', within the context provided by TURTLE. The pigeon-holing we had prior to 1994 was bad enough, without continued - albeit inadvertent - viewpoints being presented by posters to this forum, based on such crap...
 
Geez. This thread was supposed to just highlight the fact that you can get really cheap internet overseas. Between Tutle and MBS we've just solved SA's social and economic problems.

Lighten up guys. It tough in Africa but I wouldnt leave it for ANYTHING.

Life in the UK:

1) Pub on Monday
2) Internet and some Guiness on Tuesday
3) Pub on Wednesday
4) Pub on Thursday (they have a special on mash and kippers on Thursday)
5) Movie with Mum on Friday
6) Internet and some pizza on Saturday
7) Church on Sunday morning, then need to download the latest from Mrs BigTitties porn... collection






Cape Town 128K 16% Tower 22(Salt River)
 
Well I never spoke of race or anything like that. What I meant is that the people in high places and with some clout (like government) arent doing anything. They are just reaping the rewards. Dont get me wrong, Im not as negative as you think. I just wish the people in charge would work with all the others (that you speak of) to make the place better for all. There are some serious opportunities in SA especially for the so-called lesser privileged groups. Note that I dont consider myself privileged or advantaged. I think its wrong that in the so-called "disadvantaged" group there are some who are absolutely making a killing out of the situation while millions still suffer. Think Telkom, Vodacom, Corruption, BEE, Tokyo Sexwale etc. In all fairness, if you knew my situation you wouldnt quite think Im high and mighty as you make out. I worked my way up with the same or less advantages as my peers.

Now answer this.. I said "we are seeing nothing" well, is crime decreasing? are telcos becoming more accessible to all? is unemployment on the fall? are education standards going up or down? On the large scale, I stand by what I said.
 
OK - let's all take a chill pill and move to Off-Topic, if anybody cares to respond to GREEDYFLYZA's questions. Personally, I won't: socio-politico-economic discourses and debates are not the subject of this forum, and more properly belong in the worlds of academia, political parties and parliament - as I've said elsewhere on this forum, they have no place here, IMHO.

The focus _must_ remain on the BW services provided by our state agencies. Corruption, nepotism, incompetence, and other forms of rape and pillage related to BW in ZA are, however, clearly relevant, and certainly bear discussion in this forum - in this regard I concur with the FLY, but only as it pertains to BW... For MYLOW - glad to hear you're staying put...
 
Yeah as a forumite etc I am actually interested in getting good BW for SA in general. I just think getting good BW should be the main concern as it can help to solve a bunch of other problems. I just get fed up with Telkom and their ways. Its just so against what we should be doing. Anyways.
 
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