some new WotLk info

[Blatman]

This should please the elitists....

"Different Badges for Different Raid Tiers - In the expansion different raiding tiers will drop different badges. So no longer will you be able to farm Karazhan to obtain Sunwell Plateau items for example. This will make all forms of raiding more worthwhile for everyone involved."

 

[Unbreakabull]

I think thats pretty awesome.

I wish blizzard could in some way also limit (or remove totally) the use of PVP gear in PVE, but apparently the pvp stuff will look totally different to the pve stuff in Wrath which is a step in the right direction i guess.

 

[Pitbull]

I think thats pretty awesome.

I wish blizzard could in some way also limit (or remove totally) the use of PVP gear in PVE, but apparently the pvp stuff will look totally different to the pve stuff in Wrath which is a step in the right direction i guess.

Appart from the DPS weapons right ?

They are just OP

 

[Oculate]

The problem with pvp only gear: There are PVP servers and world PVP areas that screw up that idea, which will lead to whining, but I understand what you're getting at Unbreakabull.

Blizz would rather disappoint and screw the raiding population than the casual pvp population.

 

[Pitbull]

I hate people doing raids in PvP gear, but they are IMBA for lvl'ng

 

[Pleochism]

Arena gear was new to BC, and was unbalanced in certain areas. Given the wholesale overhaul of spellcasting items in Wrath, I fully expect there to be a better differentiation of items such that PvP ones will be specifically good for PvE, and lack the raid viability they currently have.
Plus, you know, more loot dropping overall means we hopefully won't need to PvP at all.

 

[diesel]

Just remove resilience and add more stamina for pvp gear and all will be fine.

 

[kHayne]

Actually, just remove arena.

It's a sh1tty game concept that hasn't worked, one which only a tiny number of hardcore pvp'ers care about. The rest just 'farm' for honour or arena points out of a *need* to gear up for PVE. Which is idiotic.

What HAS worked phenomenally well is Karazahn, and the whole badge system. It's a great way to extend the longevity of content, and KZ is still incredibly popular to this day as a result.

Keep BG's and BG gear. They embody the world of 'war'craft, they're fun and the stuff isn't really op.

The Tournament realms exist for those PVP epenors nabs to go tool around on. There's no need to have Arena polluting servers if there are other realms dedicated specifically for it, ones where you don't even have to level a toon.

 

[Barfish88]

I try do arena's every week, I like it, but due to our latency it is difficult.

 

[kHayne]

If they removed it, would you care?

Better question, if you had to choose between them removing raid content, and removing arena, which would you choose.

I think it's pretty obvious that about 90% of people who play WoW, play it for the PVE.

 

[Oculate]

I agree, remove arena off the realms, and keep them on the tourny realms only

 

[Unbreakabull]

Actually, just remove arena.
The Tournament realms exist for those PVP epenors nabs to go tool around on.

I agree with kHayne on this fully. Arena has caused many "tweaks" to classes that have made PVE balance wonky just so some pvp nubs can stop moaning about how they got pwned by <insert random op class here>

I can understand how some guys enjoy arena, but it should not affect the PVE balance of the game.

Move arena out of PVE content and exclusively to the Arena realms and get rid of arena gear.

 

[Barfish88]

What about Bg's then, there are ppl who enjoy pvp. When questing/raiding gets boring or you saved then its great running a few AV's etc. Even though i do arena's I wouldnt really miss it. BG's are totally different and its a great place to get starter gear for raids.

 

[Oculate]

Easy, bring back the vanilla BG's

Massive wars taking hours even days to win... with daily quests, it can work... maybe use the same sort of level badges that WOTLK raiding will get for pvp gear?

There was a debate in an AV (Nightfall battlegroup) this past weekend, "Who wants to summon the Forest Lord?"

 

[Pleochism]

What we need is a major update to the game that will allow them to rebalance everything and sort out the issues that have cropped up with Arena balancing affecting PvE. Maybe an expansion...

 

[TheShogun]

There is some speculation of a DOTA style BG coming in Wrath.
Should that happen I will be forced to change my pants as the ones I am wearing will suddenly be unfit for human habitation.

Personally Arena is fun but I agree it has little to no place on non-Arena realms. BG's however I feel should stay as they've become very much a part of WoW culture.

 

[Corgon]

Take arenas out and im out of the game. All i do is pvp. PVE takes too long and as far as im concerned is a complete waste of time.

If you want to play PVE thats fine go for it, each to his own. But dont take the PVP out.

 

[Oculate]

What we need is a major update to the game that will allow them to rebalance everything and sort out the issues that have cropped up with Arena balancing affecting PvE. Maybe an expansion...

To make things worse, all Blizzard does to resolve these issues is to bandaid gunshot wounds

(Putting MS on Flametongue and testing,
Dispel with an Arcane shot only to mention a few)

 

[|Blunt]

Actually, just remove arena.
It's a sh1tty game concept that hasn't worked, one which only a tiny number of hardcore pvp'ers care about.

Oh please... While browsing this forum i actually thought you where one of the guys that actually knew what he was talking about, heh i dunno maybe you where just having a bad morning...

But anyway, This game caters for PvE and PvP, while i will admit that the game revolves around PvE and i like it that way, the garbage you just typed out there sounds more like a whine than anything else.

PvP has evolved alot from what we knew pre tbc, Back then it was just a stupid honor grind(Which i admittedly took part in, but your rank NEVER showed off how much skill you have, it just gave you gear from afking in AV tunnel) When TBC a great concept was added and that was Rated arena, where there was a ladder that you could "Graph" yourself against other players to see how good you really were. It gave really decent gear which is where i think most PvE people get phreaked the phuk out.Yes there are elitist PvPers that leave you with a sour taste in your mouth, but you’ll find just as many PvE elitists

The ONLY thing i like about the tournie realms are(not that we get to play there ) is the fact that gear is not what gets you to the higher ratings
Ive always disliked that in pvp its 40% gear 50% Class choice and 10% skill
BUT that being said. The way its currently setup it FORCES team work and learning to work with other people to be successful.

This game is about achievements, I like to look at it as my ever evolving in game avatar that changes with the amount of effort/skill involved. wether it be from PvP or PvE. Basically what you’re saying is isolate 50% WoWs players because you don’t like what arena has done. Get real dude. Or as a m8 of mine says, GTFO my game.

and btw, I enjoy both. High end raiding and high end arena
Just because you don’t enjoy arena(you’ve probably never given it a decent chance or your class might be what is hindering you here) YOU and a lot of people with the same mindset want it gone..

but all i see when i see posts like these is

QQ QQ

 

[Oculate]

your class might be what is hindering you here

Personally I dont want to roll a class and grind to 70 just to do well in Arena.

I do agree with what Arena has done to the rest of WoW, too many buffs and nerfs at classes that dont need them