Some signs that SA is falling apart

Which of these has affected you in South Africa

  • Been robbed

    Votes: 69 60.5%

  • Know somebody who'se been robbed

    Votes: 103 90.4%

  • Been violently assaulted

    Votes: 19 16.7%

  • Know somebody who'se been violently assaulted

    Votes: 76 66.7%

  • Experienced more than one day without power in one month

    Votes: 77 67.5%

  • Been hi-jacked

    Votes: 14 12.3%

  • Know of somebody who'se been hi-jacked

    Votes: 83 72.8%

  • Been mugged

    Votes: 25 21.9%

  • Know of somebody who was mugged

    Votes: 83 72.8%

  • Had a break in into your car

    Votes: 77 67.5%
  • Total voters
    114
JK8 said:
Mmm the Coke thing....
ABI is being selfish and dominant as always, they want to make their own C02 and just coz they greedy!!! WHats worst is they now have a 100 mill machine that makes co2 from beer byproducts!!!!!
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Let me try and understand that:

You are saying that when the chief supplier of a large corporation fails to meet its obligations, and causes financial loss to its customer, then, that customer is greedy when they replace said supplier?

/me jaw hits ground in stunned disbelief.
 
Moederloos said:
Let me try and understand that:

You are saying that when the chief supplier of a large corporation fails to meet its obligations, and causes financial loss to its customer, then, that customer is greedy when they replace said supplier?

/me jaw hits ground in stunned disbelief.
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Oooooh you know the story or you just guessing?? It wasnt Afrox fault they didnt have CO2 its was ABI!!
 
We all know our social structure, through crime and poor education is lost. Next we will lose our economy.

If the majority of huge companies are managed badly, then it will affect the economy. If huge companies like Coke can not ensure a stable supply of raw materials how will a smaller company accomplish that? If the top of a company is rotten, so is the rest, huge companies represent the top of the economy.
 
edc said:
We all know our social structure, through crime and poor education is lost. Next we will lose our economy.

If the majority of huge companies are managed badly, then it will affect the economy. If huge companies like Coke can not ensure a stable supply of raw materials how will a smaller company accomplish that? If the top of a company is rotten, so is the rest, huge companies represent the top of the economy.
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It is indeed the "filter down" effect. Coke cannot supply, so Steers cannot sell Coke, so they lose money, so they employ less people, so they cannot afford to send kids to school, so kids become uneducated, so the cycle spirals.

(
Before I get attacked with an Economics Major:
Yes, that is indeed a very broad, unrealistic picture, but use it as an analogy.
)
 
Moederloos said:
It is indeed the "filter down" effect. Coke cannot supply, so Steers cannot sell Coke, so they lose money, so they employ less people, so they cannot afford to send kids to school, so kids become uneducated, so the cycle spirals.

(
Before I get attacked with an Economics Major:
Yes, that is indeed a very broad, unrealistic picture, but use it as an analogy.
)
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Lol and if Coke uses beer byproducts, they lose the entire Muslim community and some Jews... Hmmmmm
 
Hm. Less hijack victims than I thought, though plenty of people seem to know former victims. Bit of disparity there.

Another category important to the country's development would be 'victim of home abuse' - can't think of a better term for child abuse and spousal abuse.

As for shortages meaning the country's failing... mismanagement is the problem, from the president down to shop owners. The overarching idea seems to be that no-one needs to produce any results.
 
tibby.dude said:
Yep ... you are going to make them rich by buying their crap :).
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Especially Kiyosaki who got rich by pretending to be financially successful, then selling advice on how to be financially successful.
 
Leitmotif said:
Hm. Less hijack victims than I thought, though plenty of people seem to know former victims. Bit of disparity there.

Another category important to the country's development would be 'victim of home abuse' - can't think of a better term for child abuse and spousal abuse.

As for shortages meaning the country's failing... mismanagement is the problem, from the president down to shop owners. The overarching idea seems to be that no-one needs to produce any results.
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Not so much a disparity really. I know LOTS of people - if one person gets hijacked, then 100 people "know" him. The bigger the crime, the more people find out. For eg, someone I know was hijacked and everyone found out - when my car was broken into, almost no one knew, since it is deemed "irrelevant" and a "petty crime".
In the hijack story I know, the hijackers were shot - 2 were killed, the other 2 guys were let off in court ("no evidence").
 
JK8 said:

Lol and if Coke uses beer byproducts, they lose the entire Muslim community and some Jews...
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The Muslims are just being idiots. Do they avoid water too? Most of that must have touched alcohol at some time.
 
noxibox said:
The Muslims are just being idiots. Do they avoid water too? Most of that must have touched alcohol at some time.
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Err excuse you WTF is that supposed to mean??? No sorry for you and your thinking but NO alot of muslims dont go near alcohol!!!
If theres alcohol in the damn Coke we cant drink it!!!

IDIOT!
 
noxibox said:
The Muslims are just being idiots. Do they avoid water too? Most of that must have touched alcohol at some time.
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fact: a glass of water contains more molecules of water, than the number of glasses of water you can make with all the water on the planet.

Therefore, ever sip of water you drink is statistically likely to have gone through the waste sytem of, say, W.C. Fields. Therefore, it has for sure touched some alcohol.

Religion never withstands the force of intellect.
 
Well I answered yes on every one of those questions except:

I have not been mugged or violently assaulted.

Nice country. :rolleyes:
 
halicon said:
FACT: SA has more cars on the road today then 10 years ago.

FACT: SA has more houses plugged in the power grid then 10 years ago.

FACT: The middle class in SA has grown in the past 10 years

FACT: Shortages occur because of demand.

Are these signs of a country falling apart? No!
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Of course they are if the country was managed properly by ppl with foresight these issues would have been addressed. Even now that we know they are issues that need attention no one is accepting responsibility and agressively looking at ways to solve it. Our gov. is taking the osterich approach lets stick our heads in the sand and hope it goes away.
 
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