Spur Incident

konfab said:
It doesn't. But people don't act rationally when it comes to their kids. He wanted her to discipline her kid for bad behavior, which is not an unreasonable thing to ask to most people. She just told him to go away.



The CCTV doesn't show it. Which is oddly convenient isn't it. The witnesses say he did approach her calmly. So in absence of other evidence atm, that is what I am going with.
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The witnesses said many things which was later proven to be BS.
 
Look maybe the guy will try the "sick and tired" line to excuse himself of his actions.

This seems to be a winner when it comes to the comrades who burn and stone things when things dont go their way. They just say "We are sick and tired of x doing y" - then all is forgiven
 
Ho3n3r said:
Ah, back to justifying your hate. You're pretty inhumane.
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Hate? Who do I hate exactly? Farmers? No, I have family that are farmers. My fathers side of the family used to be farmers. So no, don';t hate them at all.
 
Ho3n3r said:
It's a pretty legit whataboutism, so I'll carry on with it. You've made it clear that you only believe in 1 race, so no use arguing with you why it's right or wrong.
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That is completely irrelevant to the topic at hand.
 
JStrike said:
Ah, yes. It's the victims fault for not doing more to stop it from happening. I see
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Its not always about fault. She should have recognised that it was a very dangerous situation, that guy was clearly aggravated and ready to get violent, she continued to provoke him.

If he had lashed out and hit her or the kids then yes he would have been prosecuted... however she could have prevented that by just leaving it and walking away.

People are too worried about who is right and who is wrong. I'd rather no one get hurt or go to jail.
 
MightyQuin said:
A few weeks ago my kids were playing at an outside play area, close to a restaurant where we were also sitting outside. I heard my daughter, who is 5, crying and saw a kid of about 9 twist her arm behind her back. As I got up, my son who is turning 8, punched the brat in the mouth and he let her go and sort of stumbled backwards.

I walked over, high 5'ed my son and picked up my daughter who was pointing and laughing at the other kid at this stage. Never saw the bully's parents, but they must have been at same restaurant because he slinked inside and we never saw him again.

I have taught both my kids to protect themselves and each other in situations like that. They also never, ever bully other kids.
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I try to teach my kid to deescalate and walk away. You never know when you are dealing with a crazy that pulls out a knife and it ends really badly for you.
 
JStrike said:
Ah, yes. It's the victims fault for not doing more to stop it from happening. I see
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His daughter was actually the victim. If she took the normal parental thing and spoke to her child not to do it again, instead of telling him to sod off, she would have defused the situation.

But I guess you can get away with it if you have a lifelong chip on your shoulder.
 
Nerfherder said:
Its not always about fault. She should have recognised that it was a very dangerous situation, that guy was clearly aggravated and ready to get violent, she continued to provoke him.

If he had lashed out and hit her or the kids then yes he would have been prosecuted... however she could have prevented that by just leaving it and walking away.

People are too worried about who is right and who is wrong. I'd rather no one get hurt or go to jail.
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Sure, however trying to focus the blame on her rather than on him where it belongs is just plain wrong.
 
JStrike said:
She is allowed to provoke him all she wants. He is not allowed to touch her child no matter what.

Stop blaming the victim.
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no sorry, there are children involved, you don't escalate things. children could get hurt or worse. as we see here for example...

and the guys child that got klapped? not a victim?
 
Ho3n3r said:
His daughter was actually the victim. If she took the normal parental thing and spoke to her child not to do it again, instead of telling him to sod off, she would have defused the situation.

But I guess you can get away with it if you have a lifelong chip on your shoulder.
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I would not try diffuse that situation. I would try make sure that the guy goes to jail..
 
Ho3n3r said:
I guess you laugh at all black on white murders/acts of violence. In fact, I'd be majorly surprised if you didn't.
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No you are trying too hard, as JStrike said, if you feel so strongly about farm murders, knock yourself out, I don't remember anyone dragging you over to this thread to come and comment here, you are here on your own free will, if you are tired of this thread go over to the farm murders thread, just don't expect everyone to follow you.
 
Nerfherder said:
Its not always about fault. She should have recognised that it was a very dangerous situation, that guy was clearly aggravated and ready to get violent, she continued to provoke him.

If he had lashed out and hit her or the kids then yes he would have been prosecuted... however she could have prevented that by just leaving it and walking away.

People are too worried about who is right and who is wrong. I'd rather no one get hurt or go to jail.
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Again, did she not ask him to leave prior to him lashing out? He approached their table, not the other way around.
 
So to recap, both parties are at fault. Him for being an overly aggressive dick that 'grabbed' her child and she for deliberately escalating it and also play the race card. Both poor parents. Agree, disagree?
 
thechamp said:
No you are trying too hard, as JStrike said, if you feel so strongly about farm murders, knock yourself out, I don't remember anyone dragging you over to this thread to come and comment here, you are here on your own free will, if you are tired of this thread go over to the farm murders thread, just don't expect everyone to follow you.
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Nobody wanted you here either, but apparently you're welcome so I don't have anything against you commenting. Unlike you, I believe in free speech.

Do you also try to stop whites from shopping at your Spar because nobody invited them?
 
Vrotappel said:
So to recap, both parties are at fault. Him for being an overly aggressive dick that 'grabbed' her child and she for deliberately escalating it and also play the race card. Both poor parents. Agree, disagree?
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For any sane person, totally agree.
 
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