squid/proxy suggestion

pwab

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Here is a suggestion for a WBS that is interested in giving customer satisfaction:

Don't charge for HTTP traffic that stops at the proxy. for eg I I read slashdot but a million other people has read slashdot in the last 5 seconds before me and the content is going to come from the cache /anyway/, so all the traffic is local to the WBS/iburst network, then do not let the traffic be "counted"

What do you guys think about this?

p!
 
well actually the reason they implemented cache was because we asked for it right here at myADSL, just like we asked to buy more GBs, they just listened to us, we're never happy though are we
 
I don't remember having asked for a transparent proxy, and I certainly don't remember WBS telling me about it either...
 
http://www.mybroadband.co.za/vb/showthread.php?t=17069&highlight=cache

you didn't ask but the users did, the problem is WBS implements things before they're 100%, the cache will be an asset later on i'm sure but for now its a little crap, I'd love them to set up a seperate proxy incase the cache is playing up or making downloads stall so I could just use the proxy to download data without being cached.

at the very least they could try serve cached content faster, i'm sure they wont but wouldn't it be cool if cached content came down at 1mbit wether you were capped or not, its feasable. Then they could cache sections of pages rather than a whole page itself and the cached bits ome down really fast and the bits unique to you could come down at normal speed. meh we can dream
 
I'd prefer a non-transparent proxy, and the incentive to use it, would be for my traffic to/from the proxy, not to count towards my cap, i.e. unmetered traffic that doesn't cost WBS a cent...basically what pwab said with a twist...;)
 
I had an incident with their cache proxy this weekend. I requested the page of an international journal and got an iBurst page saying somehting like the cache can't serve at the moment or something like that (didn't store the page). This conitued for about a couple of minutes after which it worked.
I also noticed that the cache doesn't always check if there is a newer version of the page available. I worked on a webpage and couldn't see the changes after loading them to the server. I deleted the page from the server but it still appeared on request despite missing on the server.
 
yeah i noticed you can force pages to update by smacking that refresh buton angrily a few times (it has to be angrily or they dont take you seriously). Pages arent a huge problem for me, but i freak out and almost smack my girlfriend when downloads stall on a thread and I have no idea how to get the cache to refresh or whatever
 
ic said:
I don't remember having asked for a transparent proxy, and I certainly don't remember WBS telling me about it either...

Dont all ISP`s carry them?
 
gotta luv it once again slimothy talks heaps of ****... wbs do NOT listen... no such decisions were made on these forums. we are all beyond wbs business plans slim please do shutup and stop spewing your antiquated responses. k thanks.
 
slimothy said:
yeah i noticed you can force pages to update by smacking that refresh buton angrily a few times (it has to be angrily or they dont take you seriously). Pages arent a huge problem for me, but i freak out and almost smack my girlfriend when downloads stall on a thread and I have no idea how to get the cache to refresh or whatever

or as any real web developer might do... just add ?test=1 to the end of the url.
 
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lol actually shaun green told me a week before the cache came in that they got the idea from these forums, so nye

and adding extra arguments doesn't do **** if the cache uses a md5 checksum to see if a page is different rather than a URL format, duh
 
is this the same shaun green who told me that the bad speeds were because of a screensaver on one of the wbs machines in the server room?

and I suppose as you put it: 'smacking that refresh buton angrily' is a more professional approach to bypasing a md5 checksum? keep at it... while you think of a new profession that you can share with us next week? and I think we should have a sticky too IC... something like. Slimothy's hero speeds and amount downlaoded.

I think caches are a waist of time on a 1Mb connection... when they deliver such speeds.
 
Ok, let's not get lockjaw here, let it go & get back to the topic...WBS' Transparent Proxy...

Will WBS continue counting traffic towards our caps that goes no further than their own transparent poxy server???

BTW, so far my experience with WBS' Poxy Server is that it doesn't work properly, not sure why, but it does affect http/ftp downloads, which often stall & come out corrupt on my end, the extra ~30kBytes/s that they Poxy server adds to cached downloads doesn't help me when I have to use a multithreaded download manager for every single thing to get past stalling & corruption...:(
 
halicon said:
I think caches are a waist of time on a 1Mb connection... when they deliver such speeds.

International < Local Cache :confused:

1Mbit is fast? :confused:
 
BTW, so far my experience with WBS' Poxy Server is that it doesn't work properly, not sure why, but it does affect http/ftp downloads, which often stall & come out corrupt on my end, the extra ~30kBytes/s that they Poxy server adds to cached downloads doesn't help me when I have to use a multithreaded download manager for every single thing to get past stalling & corruption...
but whats worse is that sometimes if a single thread fails no matter what mirror you use you're screwed, I'll give them the benifit of the doubt and assume they are still working on it and will have everything running smooth sometime but what I would like is some way to force the cache to reload or bypass the cache completly if there are failures, or stalls or whatever.

They obviously spent alot of money and man hours on this not-so-transparent proxy and will have to continue to do so in the future to make the service better as well as save thier own bandwith costs so I dont think they should take it down or anything, just give ways to get around it and incentive to use it.
 
alchamy said:
International < Local Cache :confused:

1mbit is fast? :confused:

1mb is the fastest/cheapest connection avaible in this country... please do not compare 1mb to other countries... compare it to whats been on offer currently.
when you start doing that you realise it is fast.

but yeah doesnt compare to my friends 4mb connection in england.
 
but i freak out and almost smack my girlfriend when downloads stall on a thread and I have no idea how to get the cache to refresh or whatever


Hahaha Slim i think u r using ur girlfriend as a mouse to put the pointer on the refresh button::P i do smack my mouse btw:D but girlfiend dude?:D
 
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