Stack overflow survey 2017

I made a comment on https://mybroadband.co.za/vb/showthread.php/878790-The-best-paid-programmers-in-the-world already.

I think that their cut off at $200k is bogus. It should be done relatively on a per group (locale, type of development, experience) basis. The arbitrary $200k cutoff to remove "extreme outliers", basically just biases the estimated salary in high income/CoL areas downwards. $200k/y total comp is barely average in the Bay Area and NY/London/Sobgapore finance.
 
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From this, I gather that I have been coding professionally for longer than 92-97% of developers.

As a C++ developer I should also make $50k/y, but wait! In the US it’s $120k/y. Lucky me :)
 
I bet employers saddled with paying Scala salaries must be having sleepless nights and asking who the idiot is who got them invested in Scala :)
 
zippy said:
I bet employers saddled with paying Scala salaries must be having sleepless nights and asking who the idiot is who got them invested in Scala :)
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Or maybe they are happy to have such good developers, hence willing to pay to keep them. :)
 
zippy said:
I bet employers saddled with paying Scala salaries must be having sleepless nights and asking who the idiot is who got them invested in Scala :)
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Nothing wrong with Scala...
...whilst not a mainstream language; it like Clojure, Erlang, F#, Haskell, and OCaml are still very much in demand.

Plus Scala is one of the only languages I know that has successfully integrated OO style polymorphism with the Higher Kinded Type polymorphism of Haskell. That in itself offers a lot of flexibility that isn't available in most multi-paradigm mainstream languages.
 
Wrote my first line of code at 6yo (apple 2 - Basic) with the help of my father. Been writing html, css and js since high school... Still lots to learn, still creative, still foolish, still hungry.

Coding is more of a second language to me than English will ever be.

The beauty is 99% of the time, a developer knows what they did wrong with a system or instruction set. Interaction with other humans is at best pleasant, at worst downright a waste of effort. Humans are wetware, I prefer software.
 
Arandompeer said:
Why the hate?
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You know this is a very subjective view and any discussion around it will attract hard core fanboys and trolls that never worked with anything else?

Both are very verbose compared to the alternatives.
 
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Hamster said:
You know this is a very subjective view and any discussion around it will attract hard code fanboys and trolls that never worked with anything else?

Both are very verbose compared to the alternatives.
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AMD is better than Java!
 
Hamster said:
You know this is a very subjective view and any discussion around it will attract hard code fanboys and trolls that never worked with anything else?

Both are very verbose compared to the alternatives.
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Yes, but I like to know peoples perspectives. What is the alternatives?
 
Arandompeer said:
Yes, but I like to know peoples perspectives. What is the alternatives?
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What are you developing?

Angular: you can use React, Vue or stick to vanilla/Typescript depending on complexity

Java: C# is a "do it all" language. Go, NodeJS, Python are great for services.

In fact, if you use Go you can deploy pretty serious performant stuff to a Pi and your docker images will be 10MB instead of 200MB.

Personal preference.
 
Hamster said:
What are you developing?

Angular: you can use React, Vue or stick to vanilla/Typescript depending on complexity

Java: C# is a "do it all" language. Go, NodeJS, Python are great for services.

In fact, if you use Go you can deploy pretty serious performant stuff to a Pi and your docker images will be 10MB instead of 200MB.

Personal preference.
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Let’s not forget about C now.
 
Hamster said:
What are you developing?

Angular: you can use React, Vue or stick to vanilla/Typescript depending on complexity

Java: C# is a "do it all" language. Go, NodeJS, Python are great for services.

In fact, if you use Go you can deploy pretty serious performant stuff to a Pi and your docker images will be 10MB instead of 200MB.

Personal preference.
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Still studying Dip IT. My side projects are in React and node. I made a simple store in C# a while back. Recently I decided to check Deno and Typescript. Deno seems like a solid runtime but time will tell. I want to learn c++ just to get my fundamentals down. I never touched Angular and Java so I was curious about why you wouldn't recommend it.
 
Arandompeer said:
Still studying Dip IT. My side projects are in React and node. I made a simple store in C# a while back. Recently I decided to check Deno and Typescript. Deno seems like a solid runtime but time will tell. I want to learn c++ just to get my fundamentals down. I never touched Angular and Java so I was curious about why you wouldn't recommend it.
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From your point of view, as a student, Java is the shizz because your number one objective is to go find a job. Don't bother yourself with the "which language is best" debate yet because by the time you are in a position where it matters there will be 10 new languages and frameworks.
 
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