Stage 1 loadshedding from 9am Monday

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Sneeky said:
Actually I had no shedding planned according to the durban map. Either the ANC broke something else or they have moved me into region 4 for shits and giggles.
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I apologise, it might have been my fault after I ranted at the muni a while ago... now they just do whatever the fsck they want :P
 
Further to that, get all convicts to pedal bikes driving generators. They have nothing better to do in jail anyway besides knock the crap out of each other (in more than one way,. and pay for the electricity stolen by their buddies. See:


Note the excuses they come up with to steal electricity.
 
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Ok, back online for now with this wobbly infrastructure, grateful.
 
ToxicBunny said:
Too late, crank generators for those sorts of things were patented ages ago....

Even did big business in Africa with Crank Radios.
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Damn.... Oh well forget the patent then. Just make them pedal anyway. I recon one KW per prisoner multiplied by how many millions of them should make quite a decent contribution to the grid.
 
Gandalf123 said:
Damn.... Oh well forget the patent then. Just make them pedal anyway. I recon one KW per prisoner multiplied by how many millions of them should make quite a decent contribution to the grid.
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FTI: A fit male can only sustain about 100W of power over long periods of time. The entire adult population of SA would barely be able to sustain 1GW of power.

The history of civilisation has been about harnessing draft animals, then wind and water power, then electricity and internal combustion engines
 
Gordon_R said:
FTI: A fit male can only sustain about 100W of power over long periods of time. The history of civilisation has been about harnessing draft animals, then wind and water power, then electricity and internal combustion engines.
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Lets do the maths then...

115000 prisoners (approximately)

Can we say we can get 100W out of them sustainably for 8 hours a day? If so we can break them into 3 shifts to provide a consistent power profile.

38300 (roughly) per shift, at 100W consistent output would equate to 3.83MW from the prison population. It may not be much, but hey, at least they would be contributing to society again :P
 
You then have very fit and healthy criminals being unleashed back onto society, you people are playing with fire, I prefer my criminals overweight and unhealthy so that I can outrun them or stand a good chance in a fight.
 
bwana said:
My dad is here visiting from the US. I'm pretty sure he's a bit bewildered about how in-stride we're taking the shedding.

If it was up to him we'd all be on a plane tomorrow.
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all of us?
does he need my passport number to book a ticket?
 
thechamp said:
You then have very fit and healthy criminals being unleashed back onto society, you people are playing with fire, I prefer my criminals overweight and unhealthy so that I can outrun them or stand a good chance in a fight.
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Currently, prisons seem to be a holiday camp for them. They don't seem to do much more than eat, sleep 5h1t, rape each other and beat the hell out of each other. Before ANC came into power, prison sentences included hard labor which also made them very fit and strong. Do the research and see how many parolees in those days committed another crime after they got out. When they get out of prison after having to have to pedal every day of their lives for 8 hours to earn their food, they won't want to ever go back again. The only difference we are talking about here is braking rocks as apposed to pedaling a mechanism that drives a small generator.
 
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thechamp said:
You then have very fit and healthy criminals being unleashed back onto society, you people are playing with fire, I prefer my criminals overweight and unhealthy so that I can outrun them or stand a good chance in a fight.
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Who said they would ever be released... :P

We put a charge against their sentence (say R10000 per year) and they can pay it off by generating power at R1 per KWh generated.... should keep them their for life generally :D
 
unplanned outages at their lowest level in like a month but there is loadshedding xD
 
cavedog said:
They took down 3 big units for planned maintenance today totally 2000MW apart from the others also. That with their reserves depleted they implemented loadshedding.
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Although it is inconvenient for us, it should be good for us in the long run. We aren't talking about just routine maintenance, we are talking about long overdue maintenance that should have been done many years ago. Personally, I think we are talking about long overdue repairs that need to be done. My technical mind tells me that is the right thing to do.

Andre de Ruyter is at the helm now. I trust him.
 
Gandalf123 said:
Although it is inconvenient for us, it should be good for us in the long run. We aren't talking about just routine maintenance, we are talking about long overdue maintenance that should have been done many years ago. Personally, I think we are talking about long overdue repairs that need to be done. My technical mind tells me that is the right thing to do.

Andre de Ruyter is at the helm now. I trust him.
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Yes well if you take the example they were using today about servicing a car. Imagine driving a 25 year old car today. Basically everything needs to be replaced and frequently and it costs more and more money which they don't have. So yeah extensive maintenance is needed but at this age and the way the units are run at max power for extended periods of time no matter how much maintenance you do you will still get a lot of unplanned breakdowns.

Then you ask yourself what about new then you just have to hear 2 names. Kusile and Medupi. Design flaws causing the boiler units to self destruct and they have't even really done real work compared to the 25+ year old units. They just taken down Medupi Unit 3 and will be down for 2 and half months to fix a design flaw. How bad are things if this happen.

I don't trust anyone and in my honest opinion I reckon Eskom is too far gone to save. They will bleed billions of rands burning through expensive diesel and expensive repair costs. When everything eventually starts working they still sit with billions of written off debt and billions of still owning debt and they will never get that money because the people that owe it can't afford it that is why they bridge meters and leave lights on and boil water during peak time because they don't pay so other people suffer and nothing will happen because the ANC wants to hold on to their majority vote so they will do anything.

It's a viscous cycle and I doubt we will see Eskom succeeding in this lifetime at least. It is what it is an Government will keep on dumping wheelbarrows of money at megawatt park.
 
cavedog said:
Yes well if you take the example they were using today about servicing a car. Imagine driving a 25 year old car today. Basically everything needs to be replaced and frequently and it costs more and more money which they don't have.
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Regularly maintained you'd not be needing to replace everything frequently. In a car it costs more and more because most of the car is not subject to preventative maintenance.
 
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