Starting up a ISP

Pho3nix

Pho3nix

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Was curious over the weekend what is the process and peeps you would need to speak too to get an ISP going.
Just the data side.. do you just speak to IS and give them lots of money?

Also what are the backhaul providers? IS, is Teroco one?

OOC : There isn't a lot of info on this locally but rather internationally. Just looking to learn something new and different
 
Barrier to entry #1 license to operate - you won't get past this one.
 
What's that thing thing they say if you gotta ask then?

But nah no way you'll get approval for this by yourself.
 
gamer16 said:
What's that thing thing they say if you gotta ask then?

But nah no way you'll get approval for this by yourself.
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Instead of giving me problems. Please answer what was asked initially. Who other than IS can I contact about this
 
Barrier to entry #1 license to operate
Barrier to entry #2 get IP addresses and ASN I think that is done through Afrinic.
Barrier to entry #3 wholesale IPC - you need millions worth of purchasing power to get competitive pricing otherwise you will NEVER get clients, people don't care they want the cheapest.
Barrier to entry #4 Billing and monitoring - You will pay through your teeth for developers to set this up and there are very few in SA capable (holistic understanding of the entire space, normally any ISP in SA has a couple of expert vendor consultants.
Barrier to entry #5 Engineering skills and cost of hardware (routers, switches) you are not going to run this on a Tenda.

After all that you need to build out your actual network no one provider has access to everywhere in SA thus you need to rent infrastructure and build out your topography at varies peering points. I think this is done through http://www.workonline.co.za/
 
Are you looking to just resell services or build your own network?
 
Pho3nix said:
Both are options at teh moment.
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Resell is easy, basically you signup with a wholesaler and it works on a commit level, then you just rebrand and resell. Building out a network you need the license as mentioned, then an AS and IP space.

And there is basically no more v4 IP space available, so a bit of a challenge for networks that don't support v6.

From there you get pricing from an IP transit provider, then look to setup peering if you like etc.
 
PBCool said:
Resell is easy, basically you signup with a wholesaler and it works on a commit level, then you just rebrand and resell. Building out a network you need the license as mentioned, then an AS and IP space.

And there is basically no more v4 IP space available, so a bit of a challenge for networks that don't support v6.

From there you get pricing from an IP transit provider, then look to setup peering if you like etc.
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^This is the realistic way to get started, you can then build out services and if you get enough clients can start looking at building your own networks etc.
 
Your own network:
#1: Get class licenses from Icasa. Both for the network and for providing services over it. Otherwise it's useless. A full national license is no longer possible without BEE.
#2: Datacentre space in one or several internet exchanges.
#3: Arrangements with ISPs/other network operators for peering.
#4: Transit with providers for networks for which you don't have peering.
#5: Permits for digging.

Reseller:
#1: Datacentre space in one or several internet exchanges.
#2: Arrangement with network provider e.g. Vumatel, Frogfoot etc.
#3: Arrangements with ISPs/other network operators for peering.
#4: Transit with providers for networks for which you don't have peering.
 
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