State capture inquiry begins

surface said:
Yes, I have been to west. Western concept forbids taking it from anyone like these chiefs.
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hence the ANC doesn't want western investment. They want to take without any interference. But it's coming down to no more jobs, growth etc...
 
TelkomUseless said:
hence the ANC doesn't want western investment. They want to take without any interference. But it's coming down to no more jobs, growth etc...
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Ford made a massive Western investment earlier in the week, that WMC puppet who calls himself the ANC President made a huge brouhaha about it, contrary to the ANC position of not wanting western investment.
 
TheChamp said:
Ford made a massive Western investment earlier in the week, that WMC puppet who calls himself the ANC President made a huge brouhaha about it, contrary to the ANC position of not wanting western investment.
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That is one company. 2nd .. look at our growth rate, our debt and ratings. We down the crapper because ANC is not willing to stop corruption.

Where is that one clip of the CNN investor guy saying about SA being corrupt etc. CR wants investment, but ANC wants to steal.
 
TelkomUseless said:
hence the ANC doesn't want western investment. They want to take without any interference. But it's coming down to no more jobs, growth etc...
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you didn't get my point. Let me repeat. Western world never plundered anything and always paid the fair price. Not like ANC and chiefs.

Got it now ?
 
Gordon_R said:
Zondo is looking at voting systems that would encourage better parliamentary oversight of the executive:
www.dailymaverick.co.za

Parliamentary oversight doesn’t seem to work — Zondo scrutinises election system

State Capture commission chairperson Deputy Chief Justice Raymond Zondo on Friday mooted electoral changes to provide a safety net to MPs so they are not beholden to their party line, particularly whe…
www.dailymaverick.co.za www.dailymaverick.co.za
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More proof this commission is a waste of time and money. Our tax money. It's not like the ANC aren't aware of all of the shortcomings of the election systems, procurement processes in government, etc. They are the beneficiaries of the system. In the words of the Great Merrett Frey ,"...why buy a cow when there are udders all around begging to be milked?".
 
TheChamp said:
Ford made a massive Western investment earlier in the week, that WMC puppet who calls himself the ANC President made a huge brouhaha about it, contrary to the ANC position of not wanting western investment.
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Oh they want western money, hence the love of begging bowls, just not the laws and rules the westerners bring as part of the deal..
 
surface said:
you didn't get my point. Let me repeat. Western world never plundered anything and always paid the fair price. Not like ANC and chiefs.

Got it now ?
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At least western world they don't sell their country to the likes of the Guptas.

And you get fired for less in western countries.... not like our bunch that get promoted.
 
Former MK intelligence operatives slam airing of SSA secrets before Zondo Commission (iol.co.za)

Johannesburg - A group of concerned former MK (Umkhonto weSizwe) intelligence operatives have slammed the Zondo commission for the way it handled testimony related to the alleged corruption and capturing of the State Security Agency (SSA).

The grouping which has organised itself under the banner of "ANC Cadres" said it was not opposed to the unearthing of alleged corruption by the commission, but due to the sensitivity of the matter, testimonies should have been held in-camera.

This was in reference to the explosive testimony of former state security minister, Dr Sydney Mufamadi, the acting director-general at SSA, Loyiso Jafta, and two other witnesses whose identities were protected.

Essentially, the forum argues that their testimony laid bare how the spy agency works. Now, these former members claim that with their own experience as former intelligence operatives, the state has been stripped naked.

One prominent member of the forum is retired army general, Maomela Motau. In September last year Motau, who is the national convenor of the ANC turnaround strategy programme, issued a document on how to renew the ANC. Among his suggestions, he called for the entire leadership of the ANC to vacate office and the party be run by an interim structure. That proposal was shot down by ANC national chairperson, Gwede Mantashe.


In a statement on Sunday, the forum said it was concerned about the laying bare of state secrets and intelligence matters before the Zondo commission and claimed that ANC factions were using the commission to overpower one another.
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Must be Zuma men.
 
Essentially, the forum argues that their testimony laid bare how the spy agency works. Now, these former members claim that with their own experience as former intelligence operatives, the state has been stripped naked.
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What a load of rubbish.
 
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