State capture inquiry begins

Gordon_R said:
IMO a witness who makes factual errors, and allegations that cannot be corroborated, is worse than useless, and wastes everyone's time. The evidence leaders should have sifted this out beforehand.

Its like a news reporter quoting "unconfirmed sources". There's often no smoke without fire, but this is a serious inquiry, with defendants who will use the full weight of the law to fight back...
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She had to be at the enquiry because she was such a big part of the story breaking in 2016. She's been thoroughly exposed as incompetent/dishonest now.

I still can't figure out what is going on with her? Just dumb and naive? I can't see what she has to gain by lying.
 
Gordon_R said:
IMO a witness who makes factual errors, and allegations that cannot be corroborated, is worse than useless, and wastes everyone's time. The evidence leaders should have sifted this out beforehand.

Its like a news reporter quoting "unconfirmed sources". There's often no smoke without fire, but this is a serious inquiry, with defendants who will use the full weight of the law to fight back...
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getthefckouttahere :ROFL::laugh::ROFL::laugh:
 
NarrowBandFtw said:
Not by lying, by intentionally getting exposed for lying ...

Zuma gains immensely, so he might have compensated her in turn.
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But they would have had to have planned this from 2016, before they even knew the enquiry would occur. That seems unlikely.
 
3WA said:
But they would have had to have planned this from 2016, before they even knew the enquiry would occur. That seems unlikely.
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Unlikely, perhaps, but not impossible.

Maybe she initially tried to blackmail 'ol shower head before there was an inquiry, but now that it is all official he paid her to torpedo her own testimony ... all speculation of course.
 
NarrowBandFtw said:
Unlikely, perhaps, but not impossible.

Maybe she initially tried to blackmail 'ol shower head before there was an inquiry, but now that it is all official he paid her to torpedo her own testimony ... all speculation of course.
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From her Facebook posts etc, she's made unsubstantiated and nonsensical statements for a long time. I think the simplest explanation is that she's stark raving mad.
 
https://www.news24.com/SouthAfrica/...rcement-agencies-at-zondo-commission-20190214

Claims of attempts to capture the SA Police Service, the Hawks and the National Prosecuting Authority (NPA) are expected to take centre stage on Thursday when IPID boss Robert McBride testifies before the state capture commission of inquiry.

McBride, former Hawks head Anwa Dramat and former Gauteng Hawks boss Shadrack Sibiya separately held meetings with the commission's investigators last week and last month.
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Mila said:
Maybe shw is being threatened?
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No, she is just all over the place and her testimony was never going to stand scrutiny, it was clear the day she accepted that she cannot tell who is who between the Gupta brothers and accusing Fana Hlongwane of things.
 
Bloem corroborates Vytjie Mentor's version of events at state capture inquiry

Former ANC MP Dennis Bloem has told the Zondo commission of inquiry into state capture that he never disclosed Vytjie Mentor's infamous "Saxonwold offer" until testifying before the inquiry.

"She said to me, 'Dennis, I am calling you because I trust you and I want to give you information regarding what happened to me'.

"She told me this information was confidential and I should not tell anyone as she would one day come out to the public and reveal it. I did exactly that," Bloem told the commission.
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More at : https://www.news24.com/SouthAfrica/...n-of-events-at-state-capture-inquiry-20190214
 
State capture: 30 people implicated by Robert McBride include some holding 'high office']


Independent Police Investigative Directorate (Ipid) boss Robert McBride's testimony before the state capture inquiry has been postponed to allow for those implicated by him a chance to respond.

Evidence leader Paul Pretorius told the commission on Thursday that the postponement is to afford those implicated in McBride's testimony time to respond to allegations against them.

McBride's testimony was finalised only late on Wednesday this week‚ and the commission's rules require implicated parties to be notified in advance so they have time to submit a responding affidavit or an application to cross-examine the witness.
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More at : https://www.sowetanlive.co.za/news/...ert-mcbride-include-some-holding-high-office/
 
In next years news headlines

Enquiry of Capture of State Capture Enquiry Begins
 
this commission will outlive us all at this rate

and of course never in a million lifetimes result in any noteworthy charges or convictions
 
Live Text, former director-general of National Treasury Lungisa Fuzile testifying on the nuclear deal: https://www.news24.com/SouthAfrica/...-state-capture-for-further-testimony-20190218

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Eskom witnesses will only commence on Wednesday.
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14:39
Option of phasing nuclear was agreed upon (with energy colleagues not enthusiastically accepting).

Zuma then turned to Fuzile and said "you and your former minister had stopped the PetroSA project."

Zuma continued saying: "In other countries, finance ministers do not tell presidents that there is no money, they find the money. But this was not the approach of ministers in SA."

Fuzile: I do not want to put an interpretation to it, but it did shock me.
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14:32
Fuzile says the Gov departments would at times underestimate the costs to get approval from national treasury. He made example with Gauteng gov with the pitch of Gautrain - It was estimated at R7 Billion, but the real cost was around R25 billion.
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11:54
Fuzile says the closure of Gupta bank accounts, the contract of SASSA, SAA, PetroSA and Engen Deal gave raise to the dissatisfaction of the former President.
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#StateCaptureInquiry: 'If nuclear had proceeded, SA would've been in trouble'

Johannesburg - Former National Treasury director-general Lungisa Fuzile has corroborated former minister Nhlanhla Nene's evidence regarding pressure to implement the nuclear deal.
Fuzile returned to the state capture inquiry on Monday to finalise aspects of his testimony.

He told the commission of a meeting with former president Jacob Zuma where the nuclear deal was discussed.

He said Zuma made various comments that were concerning. And even with doubts from Treasury and Nene, there was pressure to go ahead with the deal.

Nene had testified when he appeared last year at the inquiry that the nuclear deal would have cost a lot of money and place massive risk on the country's fiscus.
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More at: https://www.iol.co.za/news/politics...proceeded-sa-wouldve-been-in-trouble-19365917
 
https://www.news24.com/SouthAfrica/...-long-lasting-zondo-commission-hears-20190219

National Treasury economist Catherine MacLeod told the state capture commission of inquiry that South Africans were worse off after Nhlanhla Nene's removal as finance minister in December 2015, as a result of financial market movements caused by political uncertainty.
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She testified that Nenegate resulted in an increase in bond yields and a depreciation in the currency when markets opened the morning after his removal. At the time, investors repriced the risks associated with investing in South Africa.

She also told the commission that the change in ministers increased perceptions of the risk that the South African government's commitment to fiscal sustainability was weakening.
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#StateCaptureInquiry shifts focus to Eskom

Johannesburg - The Zondo commission will on Wednesday set its eyes on Eskom.

The commission is expected to put on record Eskom related documents which include reports.

On Friday the first witness will take the stand and testify about corruption allegations at Eskom.

The state-owned company had been at the centre of allegations into state capture by the Gupta family.

The notorious family, which had a close relationship with former president Jacob Zuma, scored millions from the company in dodgy tenders it was awarded.
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More at: https://www.iol.co.za/news/politics/statecaptureinquiry-shifts-focus-to-eskom-19395728
 
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