State capture inquiry begins

thechamp said:
https://mg.co.za/article/2017-04-04...ty-commission-of-being-used-in-anti-zuma-plot

The same Mbalula who is now portraying himself as the lone voice amongst cowards is the same one who chastised the people who actually wanted to do something about Zuma. Why did he not support them if he was so righteous and worried about the Guptas?
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Flip Flop Fikile?

Here's the problem Fikile has. Anybody with at least half a brain cell will realize Zuma ousted any threat to him, surrounding himself with his cronies, with or without the help of the Guptas. Guilty by association? Not really, that would be teh same as asking if gang members are guilty by association.
 
Sollie said:
Flip Flop Fikile?

Here's the problem Fikile has. Anybody with at least half a brain cell will realize Zuma ousted any threat to him, surrounding himself with his cronies, with or without the help of the Guptas. Guilty by association? Not really, that would be teh same as asking if gang members are guilty by association.
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Politicians are scumbags of the lowest order. It's all about self preservation. They will sing to whichever tune is favourable at the time...
 
Zondo to 'reach out' to FS govt after Mxolisi Dukwana's testimony delayed


JOHANNESBURG - Former Free State MEC Mxolisi Dukwana did not testify at the state capture inquiry on Monday due to difficulties obtaining information from the provincial government.
Dukwana is expected to outline how African National Congress (ANC) secretary-general Ace Magashule allegedly took him to the Gupta's Saxonworld compound under false pretenses.
The former MEC said he was promised R2 million per month for agreeing to put the Guptas in charge of a construction project.
Deputy Chief Justice Raymond Zondo said the commission will reach out to the Free State government.
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More at: https://ewn.co.za/2019/03/25/zondo-...ovt-after-mxolisi-dukwana-s-testimony-delayed
 
R13... said:
They ought to be doing dawn raids on people, kicking ass and taking down names not pussyfooting.
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no, no, NO, that is counter revolutionary!

if they do that they might actually land an ANC cadre in jail, that's not the task the ANC gave them, their task is kabuki theater until the people forget about the ANC's complete corruption
 
Magashule’s political ties are why his son would do business with Guptas – Dukwana

The former MEC says the former premier told him there was nothing stopping his son, as the child of a politician, from doing business.

Former Free State economic development MEC Mxolisi Dukwana on Friday told the commission of inquiry into state capture that the province’s former premier, Ace Magashule, told him during a visit to the infamous Guptas’ Sahara Computers offices in Midrand, Johannesburg, that his son would be the viable option to go into business with the controversial family because of Magashule senior’s political ties.
This was after Magashule, who is the current secretary general of the governing party, told him that he was planning to go into business with the Guptas but because of his political ties, his son, Tshepiso would go instead, the former MEC told the commission.
Dukwana said in February 2008, when he served as provincial MEC for safety and Magashule as the MEC for sport, following an official meeting in Johannesburg, the incumbent ANC secretary general asked Dukwana to accompany him to Midrand.
The two travelled in the same vehicle to Midrand and upon arrival, Dukwana saw a huge Sahara sign, he said, adding that at the time he did not know about the Guptas.
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More at: https://citizen.co.za/news/south-af...is-son-would-do-business-with-guptas-dukwana/
 
State capture started during Mandela's presidency with cadre deployment - Zille

Western Cape Premier Helen Zille is of the view that state capture started during Nelson Mandela’s presidency.
This much she said while addressing a DA meeting in Kempton Park, Johannesburg, on Thursday, TimesLive reported.
The publication quoted Zille as saying: "One area that he [Mandela] had a blind spot to was the danger of cadre deployment… that set the tone and the trajectory was inevitable." The inevitable trajectory being state capture.
Zille said the critics of this view labelled her as a racist who did not want to see change in the country‚ but they had done very little to fight racism and apartheid as she had.


Zille’s comments have not been received well on social media. The ANC Western Cape Twitter account responded to Zille’s comments, saying state capture began 367 years ago when Jan van Riebeeck landed in the Cape.


https://twitter.com/x/status/1114098411215773696
https://twitter.com/ANCWesternCape_
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More at: https://www.news24.com/SouthAfrica/...esidency-with-cadre-deployment-zille-20190405
 
'Brother Ace' gets a million - Tony Gupta allegedly tells Dukwana

Rajesh "Tony" Gupta allegedly told former Free State MEC Mxolisi Dukwana that he was a trustworthy man who would drive to the house of ANC secretary general Ace Magashule and Duduzane Zuma, the son of the former president, to deliver a million rand in cash every month.
Dukwana was testifying at the Zondo commission of inquiry into state capture on Friday.
He told inquiry chairperson, Deputy Chief Justice Raymond Zondo that Magashule introduced him to the controversial Gupta family, who are accused of using their relationship with former president Jacob Zuma to loot the state around 2012.
He claimed that Magashule took him to the Guptas' home in Saxonwold in Johannesburg in 2012 under the pretence that they were going to attend a fundraising for the ANC in the Free State. At the time, Dukwana was the MEC for economic development and ANC treasurer in the Free State.

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He said when they arrived at the Gupta family home, they were welcomed by Rajesh "Tony" Gupta who asked him to hand over his cellphone.
He said Gupta and Magashule then disappeared to another room and when they came back, Duduzane Zuma, Iqbal Sharma and other people accompanied them.
"It then dawned on me that there was going to be a meeting," he said.
Dukwana testified that he then looked Magashule straight in the eye, who was "just looking down". Dukwana told Zondo that he was told that he needed to sign a letter agreeing to put the Guptas in charge of a construction project.
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More at: https://www.news24.com/SouthAfrica/...n-tony-gupta-allegedly-tells-dukwana-20190405
 
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Zondo's younger brother's name pops up during #StateCaptureInquiry

Johannesburg - Former Ipid boss Robert McBride’s testimony at the state capture inquiry will mention commission chair deputy chief justice Raymond Zondo’s younger brother advocate Mxolisi Zondo.

On Thursday morning the commission’s head of legal advocate Paul Pretorius sought to deal with the possible conflict of interest regarding McBride's testimony on Mxolisi Zondo.

Pretorius explained that McBride’s mention of Mxolisi relates to an opinion he has provided relating to a disciplinary hearing that was chaired by him.

Mxolisi had chaired a disciplinary hearing relating to the illegal detention of Zimbabwean nationals by the police in 2010. Former Gauteng Hawks head Shadrick Sibiya was fired following that disciplinary hearing along with Ipid investigator Matthew Sesoko who was later rehired.

Pretorius said the parties who would be mentioned by McBride, including Mxolisi and Sesoko, had been notified of the possible conflict of interest. McBride did not object to Zondo presiding over the matter and said he trusted he would be objective.
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More at : https://www.iol.co.za/news/politics...e-pops-up-during-statecaptureinquiry-20952028
 
ANC: WE'RE NOT ABANDONING REQUEST TO CROSS-EXAMINE ANGELO AGRIZZI

JOHANNESBURG – The African National Congress (ANC) says it was misquoted by Business Day which reported that the governing party no longer intended to cross-examine former Bosasa COO Angelo Agrizzi at the state capture commission.

In a statement on Wednesday, the ANC said it had written to the Zondo commission requesting an opportunity to cross-examine Agrizzi who has accused the party’s former top six leaders and its other structures of receiving large amounts of cash in so-called “donations.”

“Although Mr Agrizzi changed some of his allegations, the ruling party has no intention of ceding its constitutional right to cross-examine him, in order to get to the truth behind his very grave allegations
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More at : https://ewn.co.za/2019/04/10/anc-sa...g-its-request-to-cross-examine-angelo-agrizzi
 
Analysis of how/why State Capture invaded law enforcement: https://www.dailymaverick.co.za/art...ed-essential-law-enforcement-cogs-and-wheels/

“Why is this commission necessary to be sitting and why has it been able to do what it has been able to do in eight months when we have had this framework, resourced and peopled as it is for over 10 years, up to 20 years in different forms?”

Of course, the short answer is that a collection of politically connected, unethical individuals found themselves in positions where they subverted the laws of the country and abused the resources of the state for their own corrupt ends.
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Gordon_R said:
Analysis of how/why State Capture invaded law enforcement: https://www.dailymaverick.co.za/art...ed-essential-law-enforcement-cogs-and-wheels/
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A brilliant summary and I think what's on everybody's mind.

He said that the Scorpions, from 2001 to 2004, had dealt with 653 cases, 273 investigations and 300 prosecutions. Of those, 349 had ended in convictions, a 92% conviction rate. Until 2007 (two years before it was disbanded in 2009) the DSO achieved a 94% conviction rate
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Then came travelgate and the guilty voted to disband the Scorpions.
Pretorius said the Anti-Corruption Task Team — established by President Zuma in 2010 as “an interdepartmental body to fast-track high-priority and high-profile corruption cases” — had, between 2010 and 2015 received 148 priority cases with only one conviction.

The SIU had referred 686 matters to the NPA during 2013 and 2018 with the value of R11-million.

“Not one has been successfully prosecuted,” said Pretorius
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Looking at this, where does criminal charges end and treason charges start?
 
Pretorius said the Anti-Corruption Task Team — established by President Zuma in 2010 as “an interdepartmental body to fast-track high-priority and high-profile corruption cases” — had, between 2010 and 2015 received 148 priority cases with only one conviction.

The SIU had referred 686 matters to the NPA during 2013 and 2018 with the value of R11-million.

“Not one has been successfully prosecuted,” said Pretorius
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