State capture inquiry begins

Well we will see tomorrow if Jacob is up to a final day of the commission. I personally doubt it as his lawyers know he very nearly incriminated himself a few times the last few days...
 
Excalibur said:
Ok, let's weight and sea. Looking forward to that.
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Zuma has a track record as a lying sack. So I'd take Maseko and Hogan's word over his lying any day of the week.

The ANC say the cabinet changes he kept making came from somewhere other than internal party engagements yet he's still denying influence when he had his son appointed family bagman and the go between in engagement between government officials and the Indians. Maseko refuses the Guptas, he's then threatened. Next he's fired on what Chabane says is Zuma's instruction
 
Splinter said:
To be at the commission to carry on with these lies to other questions, so that he looks like an even bigger deceitful, dishonest and despicable twat.
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Amen to that. Even if he doesn't return to commission tomorrow or ever, point is made. He has been given ample opportunity and Justice Z & Advocate P have been patient with him but he has preferred to be same obfuscating, deflecting, lying son of a turd.

Live broadcast has proved a great show for the world to see. Now, only if NPA can do what they have promised.
 
He is returning,

Regulation 8(2) now reads:

"A self-incriminating answer or a statement given by a witness before the commission shall not be admissible as evidence against that person in any criminal proceedings brought against that person instituted in any court, except in criminal proceedings where the person concerned is charged with an offence in terms of section 6 of the Commissions Act, 1947 (Act No. 8 of 1947)."

Section 6 of the Commissions Act states that any witness who does not testify as agreed, or finish testifying, or produce any document or book or information required, is liable to a fine.
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ironically it was Ramaphosa who made the amendment,

https://www.thesouthafrican.com/news/jacob-zuma-cyril-ramaphosa-state-capture-inquiry/

At the end of 2018, Zuma hinted that Ramaphosa may have had his own involvement in state capture: In a supporting affidavit filed during Tom Moyane’s court case against SARS, uBaba dropped Cyril right in it.
“I wish to confirm that at all material times hereto, President Ramaphosa diligently served as my Deputy President and he would have been familiar with most important and relevant decisions made by the cabinet or the presidency.”
Jacob Zuma​
Effectively claiming that Cyril “knows whatever he knows”, the statement acted as an open invitation for the Zondo Commission to come and grill the president about what he saw during Zuma’s reign as our head of state. The 77-year-old may not have dropped Ramaphosa’s name yet, but he’s certainly flirting with it.

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Zuma soon went on the warpath over this, frantically denying that such an assertion could be true. He actively sought out the media to clarify the work he had done between 2009 – 2018, blasting Cyril in the process. During his testimony on Monday, JZ was happy to suggest that Ramaphosa and his colleagues were ‘party to state capture’:
“Those who now speak of nine wasted years were party to the decisions taken during those nine years, or party to their implementation.”
Jacob Zuma​
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and seeing Ramaphosa answer to the call today,

https://www.news24.com/SouthAfrica/...le-to-appear-before-zondo-commission-20190718

Ramaphosa 'willing and able' to appear before Zondo commission
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President Cyril Ramaphosa took on the challenge DA leader Mmusi Maimane's posed to him by stating that he is "willing and able" to appear before the Zondo Commission into state capture.

Ramaphosa also pointed out that his efforts to root out corruption is facing resistance.
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now Zuma has the chance to play the Ramaphosa card in testimony.
 
Sollie said:
South Africa has had a very bad week.

James Small is gone.
Johnny Clegg is gone.
Jacob Zuma's memory is gone.
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This week in review:
What's the difference between a polygamist and a bachelor? A polygamist will make up wild theories how his life is in danger, a bachelor will be the one executed and killed.
 
“Those who now speak of nine wasted years were party to the decisions taken during those nine years, or party to their implementation.”
Jacob Zuma
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Since when can you use the excuse everyone is corrupt as a defense when you are pleading your innocence?
 
Strongly worded article saying the whole spy thing is a distraction, and Zuma has long been known to be a BS artist: https://www.news24.com/Analysis/zumas-spygate-who-is-the-real-impimpi-20190718
Apart from strong denouncements by veterans like Sydney Mufamadi (who said Zuma has an "exaggerated" sense of self-importance), Jeremy Cronin said ANC leaders in the late 1980s believed Zuma to be "unsuited" to be left in charge of security and intelligence matters.
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But when negotiations started in earnest in late 1990 and 1991 – formal and clandestine – it was Joe Nhlanhla who spoke on behalf of ANC intelligence structures. Former operatives in the then National Intelligence say although Zuma was considered an important figure in 1990, when it came to intelligence matters, he wasn’t the go-to guy – Nhlanhla (who became deputy and later minister of intelligence) was.

This accords with Cronin's view that ANC leaders had of Zuma and explains his anger at being removed as ANC intelligence chief at the party’s first conference since unbanning in 1991 in Durban (on Monday Zuma explained his removal was part of the grand conspiracy against him hatched and managed by hostile intelligence services).
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