State will not pay private hospitals

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http://www.news24.com/SouthAfrica/Politics/State-wont-pay-private-hospitals-20100908

Johannesburg - The state will not pay private hospitals for their help during the recent public service strike, Gauteng Health MEC Dorothy Mahlangu said in Johannesburg on Wednesday.

Doctors from public hospitals were used to treat patients that had been moved to private facilities, she told reporters.

The only thing the government would pay for would be drips, cotton wool and other consumables.
 
Oh how nice. Screw up the public hospitals, then spit in the face of those that helped you out. Has the public sector (ie government) even said thank you for the help given?
 
From the original articles I read, I understood that this was the agreement. Private hospitals accommodated patients in need but all the operations where performed by state doctors.

Actually its just a reverse of what happens each day. There are many private patients who have their ops done at public hospitals but they just use their own surgeon and not state. They pay less. I think the favour needs be paid back by the private sector.
 
cbrunsdonza said:
From the original articles I read, I understood that this was the agreement. Private hospitals accommodated patients in need but all the operations where performed by state doctors.

Actually its just a reverse of what happens each day. There are many private patients who have their ops done at public hospitals but they just use their own surgeon and not state. They pay less. I think the favour needs be paid back by the private sector.
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The problem I see with this is that the govt hospital patient took up a bed in the private hospital and no refund is being made for the loss suffered by the private hospital for having lost the chance to accommodate and treat one more patient of their own ... or am I wrong ?
 
I think the private hospitals pretty much knew this going in. You can't "offer to help" and then turn around later and expect to be paid. If the state had the money to pay private hospitals the strike would have never happened in the first place.
 
Interesting, thanks.
I have heard of one peep using state hospital facilities and private surgeons, seems it's not so rare after all.
 
blunomore said:
The problem I see with this is that the govt hospital patient took up a bed in the private hospital and no refund is being made for the loss suffered by the private hospital for having lost the chance to accommodate and treat one more patient of their own ... or am I wrong ?
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Show me a private hospital that is full?

I just came back from our local one and there are empty beds and rooms as usual. The ward my wife is in (maternity) has 30 beds (2 per room) and 12 beds are empty. Today in particular was extremely busy due to the date "2010-09-08" - reason why she went in today :)

When my son was born 3 yrs back there where only 5 patients in that ward.

Also private hospitals make money by charging for private rooms - you pay for that empty bed next to you. Sure, they lost some cash but they are so going to make it up in the years to come. How many of those state patients are now going to get medical aid. Once you've been treated in a private hospital for something serious, you will always make sure you have medical aid.
 
cbrunsdonza said:
Show me a private hospital that is full?

I just came back from our local one and there are empty beds and rooms as usual. The ward my wife is in (maternity) has 30 beds (2 per room) and 12 beds are empty. Today in particular was extremely busy due to the date "2010-09-08" - reason why she went in today :)

When my son was born 3 yrs back there where only 5 patients in that ward.

Also private hospitals make money by charging for private rooms - you pay for that empty bed next to you. Sure, they lost some cash but they are so going to make it up in the years to come. How many of those state patients are now going to get medical aid. Once you've been treated in a private hospital for something serious, you will always make sure you have medical aid.
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Beds are not counted like that. The fact there is a physical bed in a ward doesn't mean they can fit in one more patient. There must be staff to manage the patient as well.
 
The only good that came out of this is (that was) that they (private sector) at least came through on their oath's on becoming health workers, nurses & doctors

Not like the unforgiving, careless & hypocrite schit that you get in the governments base... (though not all... 80% of them anyway) :wtf:

Edit: bad grammar
 
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Lounger said:
Beds are not counted like that. The fact there is a physical bed in a ward doesn't mean they can fit in one more patient. There must be staff to manage the patient as well.
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Private hospitals always have enough nurses for after care. The maternity ward where my wife is has a dozen nurses at any time. Just remember that after care dose not involve a nurse being in the room all the time. At most the nurse will come for 2 minutes an hour.

In the childrens ward where there are also about 30 beds, they only have 8 nurses that handle the kids. Parents need to accommodate their kids and are expected to help assist with the medication, bathing, etc. My son gets hospitalised up to 3 times a year due to his asthma and I've spend many days with him.
 
Lounger said:
Beds are not counted like that. The fact there is a physical bed in a ward doesn't mean they can fit in one more patient. There must be staff to manage the patient as well.
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By the way doctors from the public sector came in to manage those patients.
 
Imagine a world in which government employees used private hospitals. Imagine then that taxpayers paid those private hospital bills. Imagine living in that world. Imagine supporting that system. What was the topic again?
 
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