-
Join the MyBroadband community
South Africa’s biggest forum. Discuss, discover, and connect with thousands of members.
-
Question of the Day: How impressed have you been with the 2026 Amazon Prime Day deals?
Steamed up about Windows
- Thread starter ic
- Start date
devnull
Well-Known Member
i wonder if we badger them long enough if they will bring out direct x 10 for xp. i dont want vista. i want dx10.
There is somebody busy with a DirectX10 port to Windows XP. Search for it on Google... If they succeed it is just more proof that Microsoft's statement about DirectX10 being incompatible with XP is rubbish, and that it was merely done to push sales of Vista.
GougedEye
Expert Member
Not a snowballs chance in hell. No way, not ever! Give you DX10 so you don't have to buy their shiny new Vista? Surely you jest sir!!
Jonny Two Shoes
Expert Member
From some threads on DX10 capabilities here it does not seem possible that it would work on XP.
One never knows. However the only reason why I want Vista is because of DX10 and thats all. Im sure many others share the same opinion. DX10 is the only selling point, everything else is only nailed down to fancy GUI and support.
We are all so used to XP that it makes one huge barrier to entry for Vista. Now I have to go learn a whole new OS again for work. Im not sure how different Vista is but it has a lot to prove before Im interested.
One never knows. However the only reason why I want Vista is because of DX10 and thats all. Im sure many others share the same opinion. DX10 is the only selling point, everything else is only nailed down to fancy GUI and support.
We are all so used to XP that it makes one huge barrier to entry for Vista. Now I have to go learn a whole new OS again for work. Im not sure how different Vista is but it has a lot to prove before Im interested.
Last edited:
I love Vista
I'm a software developer for a big corporate and I always try to install the latest and greates apps on my PC to make sure my software will work on them.
My laptop is a standard 2.4GHz, 2GB RAM and 100GB HDD - My Graphics card isn't Aero compatible, which means my laptop is classified as 'Windows Vista Capable' and it ahs a nice sticker on the front reminding me that it wasn't 100% intended for Vista.
Anyways, I installed Vista Ultimate - it detected ALL my hardware, installed everything automatically and I had aboslutely no problems. Hooking it up to an LCD display or projector is dream, it immediately switches to the 2nd display. I love it, it's fast and yeah I know all operating systems are fast when you've just installed them and then they start to slow down, but it's been 4 months running now and it's still pretty damn fast. It has never frozen on me, never crashed or given me any hassles.
My work started buying Vista for some of our divisions and it's a dream. Users love it and they never have any problems. That said, I love XP too and I believe it's the best of the MS OS bunch, but Vista is pretty stable in our environment for a new OS.
People just love insulting Microsoft's products - for some reason my XP and Vista just never crashed or made me angry before! I guess I'm lucky.
Cheers.
I'm a software developer for a big corporate and I always try to install the latest and greates apps on my PC to make sure my software will work on them.
My laptop is a standard 2.4GHz, 2GB RAM and 100GB HDD - My Graphics card isn't Aero compatible, which means my laptop is classified as 'Windows Vista Capable' and it ahs a nice sticker on the front reminding me that it wasn't 100% intended for Vista.
Anyways, I installed Vista Ultimate - it detected ALL my hardware, installed everything automatically and I had aboslutely no problems. Hooking it up to an LCD display or projector is dream, it immediately switches to the 2nd display. I love it, it's fast and yeah I know all operating systems are fast when you've just installed them and then they start to slow down, but it's been 4 months running now and it's still pretty damn fast. It has never frozen on me, never crashed or given me any hassles.
My work started buying Vista for some of our divisions and it's a dream. Users love it and they never have any problems. That said, I love XP too and I believe it's the best of the MS OS bunch, but Vista is pretty stable in our environment for a new OS.
People just love insulting Microsoft's products - for some reason my XP and Vista just never crashed or made me angry before! I guess I'm lucky.
Cheers.
alloytoo
Honorary Master
Since the very first thing I do with any windows installation is disable the resource intensive "Effects" the prospect of "Aero" doesn't exactly thrill me.
If I want spiffy effects I'll play a game.
What I want is speed, stability and ease of use, not a spiffy new look to the recycle bin every 36 months.
If I want spiffy effects I'll play a game.
What I want is speed, stability and ease of use, not a spiffy new look to the recycle bin every 36 months.
I have personally tried Windows Vista in the Beta stage and 3 months after release.
Windows Vista is indeed a very stable and fast operating system, as I experienced it, however when it comes to media playback, gaming and 3D applications it sucks ass, thats as simple as I can say it.
Games, DivX Files all had worse performance under windows... so third party applications. Im certain it will be fixed over time, and a lot of problem lies in the nVidia display drivers that arent quite developed properly yet.
Windows XP is my main OS for now....
as I post this, my windows xp session has been up for 12 Days 19 Hours 16 Minutes 3 Seconds
Perfectly stable, no slowdown, no crashing of any type, perfect gaming experience for WoW and CSS
Windows Vista is indeed a very stable and fast operating system, as I experienced it, however when it comes to media playback, gaming and 3D applications it sucks ass, thats as simple as I can say it.
Games, DivX Files all had worse performance under windows... so third party applications. Im certain it will be fixed over time, and a lot of problem lies in the nVidia display drivers that arent quite developed properly yet.
Windows XP is my main OS for now....
as I post this, my windows xp session has been up for 12 Days 19 Hours 16 Minutes 3 Seconds
Perfectly stable, no slowdown, no crashing of any type, perfect gaming experience for WoW and CSS
Ekhaatvensters
Executive Member
I don't know how many (if any) games were originally going to be DX10 only for a while yet. All games released for DX10 in the next year or two will probably be backwards compatable, just like with all DX versions before this one.
But MS have apparently made this harder, or DX10's changes have at least. I'm not sure how easily it will be to support DX9..
"Another Vista-related legal challenge is one being brought against graphics hardware manufacturer NVidia, also because the company was said to have falsely claimed its products were compatible with the new operating system"
do not get vista if you have an nvidia 8800 GTS or 8800 GTX!!! i gave up on vista because it didnt support my 8800! and i had endless problems with games!
wait till they release service packs..
do not get vista if you have an nvidia 8800 GTS or 8800 GTX!!! i gave up on vista because it didnt support my 8800! and i had endless problems with games!
wait till they release service packs..
Ekhaatvensters
Executive Member
Weird.. Vista works fine with many peoples older series cards. Yet the cards designed for Vista and DX10 don't work as well? 
LifelongGamer
Well-Known Member
- Joined
- Dec 21, 2005
- Messages
- 455
- Reaction score
- 0
More complicated than you think
When I bought a new pc 2 years ago I fell for the AMD64 hype thinking the 'new' platform would be a wise option. I knew at the time that Linux was the only OS offering full 64-bit support but that for games I was stuck with WinXP and DirectX. I was patient and happily waiting for WinXP Pro 64-bit only to find out there would be no retail release and that my hopes for a proper gaming-compatible OS would lie with Longhorn which was later renamed Vista.
Needless to say upon retail release I bought Home Premium 64-bit and installed it on my pc. Easiest OS install next to Linux Live-CD/DVD but with full hardware support and operability. Everything was automatically detected, configured and activated - and with my 384 ADSL connection online scans and updating done in less time than I first thought. Very little intervention was required on my part.
The only issue I encountered was a lack of 64-bit driver support for my Audigy 2 soundcard and not wanting to wait for Creative driver support estimated around August (at that stage anyway) I went out and bought a new X-Fi XtremeGamer card with XP-64 driver support. I know what you're thinking: Vista 64-bit not quite the same as XP-64, but some creative manual driver installation enabled sound on my Vista OS where before I had none. Yes, full support was lacking for 3D effects but that was solved a couple of months later when Creative released proper Vista 64 drivers for my soundcard. Now everything is 100%.
Using Vista for several months has really grown on me. It's easy to use, remains stable and I no longer have to worry so much about funny things happening behind the scenes without my knowledge.
My ONLY gripe is lack of (or rather slow development) of 64-bit application support for my favourite Internet Security Suite (anti-virus, firewall, antispyware, antispam) and have resorted to using separate software packages with Vista support available from the web. A few more months and this hurdle will be a thing of the past.
What forced me to dual-boot back to WinXP was the simple fact that CNC 3 Kane Edition is only supported for Vista 32-bit and even with the latest patch gives graphic glitches and texture corruption in-game. Even worse is the fact that despite successful testing of CoH/CoV when I first installed Vista 64, over time I found that the game client crashes each time I try to login to play. PlayNC Support advised OpenGL support for nVidia and ATi in Vista is stil problematic. DirectX games work fine (as evidenced by Guild Wars and WoW).
So until game support under Vista 64 improves, I'll continue to use WinXP for my gaming needs that don't work under Vista and use Vista for everything else that does work. Perhaps Vista SP1 will address this annoying oversight from the development community. For those that have not yet migrated to Vista (especially gamers) you may want to wait until the support community wakes up to the fact that Vista is actually out in the open and forget about delays to providing solutions.
When I bought a new pc 2 years ago I fell for the AMD64 hype thinking the 'new' platform would be a wise option. I knew at the time that Linux was the only OS offering full 64-bit support but that for games I was stuck with WinXP and DirectX. I was patient and happily waiting for WinXP Pro 64-bit only to find out there would be no retail release and that my hopes for a proper gaming-compatible OS would lie with Longhorn which was later renamed Vista.
Needless to say upon retail release I bought Home Premium 64-bit and installed it on my pc. Easiest OS install next to Linux Live-CD/DVD but with full hardware support and operability. Everything was automatically detected, configured and activated - and with my 384 ADSL connection online scans and updating done in less time than I first thought. Very little intervention was required on my part.
The only issue I encountered was a lack of 64-bit driver support for my Audigy 2 soundcard and not wanting to wait for Creative driver support estimated around August (at that stage anyway) I went out and bought a new X-Fi XtremeGamer card with XP-64 driver support. I know what you're thinking: Vista 64-bit not quite the same as XP-64, but some creative manual driver installation enabled sound on my Vista OS where before I had none. Yes, full support was lacking for 3D effects but that was solved a couple of months later when Creative released proper Vista 64 drivers for my soundcard. Now everything is 100%.
Using Vista for several months has really grown on me. It's easy to use, remains stable and I no longer have to worry so much about funny things happening behind the scenes without my knowledge.
My ONLY gripe is lack of (or rather slow development) of 64-bit application support for my favourite Internet Security Suite (anti-virus, firewall, antispyware, antispam) and have resorted to using separate software packages with Vista support available from the web. A few more months and this hurdle will be a thing of the past.
What forced me to dual-boot back to WinXP was the simple fact that CNC 3 Kane Edition is only supported for Vista 32-bit and even with the latest patch gives graphic glitches and texture corruption in-game. Even worse is the fact that despite successful testing of CoH/CoV when I first installed Vista 64, over time I found that the game client crashes each time I try to login to play. PlayNC Support advised OpenGL support for nVidia and ATi in Vista is stil problematic. DirectX games work fine (as evidenced by Guild Wars and WoW).
So until game support under Vista 64 improves, I'll continue to use WinXP for my gaming needs that don't work under Vista and use Vista for everything else that does work. Perhaps Vista SP1 will address this annoying oversight from the development community. For those that have not yet migrated to Vista (especially gamers) you may want to wait until the support community wakes up to the fact that Vista is actually out in the open and forget about delays to providing solutions.
Why is it that Windoze loves to refocus & popup windows? - I had my first bitter taste of Vista yesterday on a new notebook, and I am not impressed so far - all the reasons why I prefer Linux are flooding back like a very bad dream .
.