Studying - Information Systems (Software Development) at CTI

If this is true....this is pure BS..how the heck can someone get a bsc hons like that???????

where do they get that claim from?

Who gave the heads up for that?
 
Read again and you'll see, the degree isn't recognized in SA. Most companies in SA do background checks, either themselves or through various other companies that offer the service. If you were to claim you had a BSc degree and they did a background check it wouldn't be recognized in all likelihood.

I'm sure most of the people here with degrees know about the background checks, they are standard procedure everywhere I've applied for a job. You fill out forms that give them permission to do the checks, criminal record, Matric results, any and all degrees you might have, etc. Some of the permission forms aren't in the company's name so I can only surmise they have another 3rd party do the checks for them.

Not that many of the CTi students probably do a degree like that anyway, bet most of them stop long before they reach that point.
 
Buy the books from Intersoft.co.za or from kalahari.net and study at own time.

Edit: It's a lot cheaper and you can't get ripped a new one!
 
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Hi All

Pls help, my niece wants to study software dev/programming next year. Her dad chose CTI to study at cos they hook you up with a job after study and he met a few ppl who have studied there. You only attend lectures for 1 yr and the next 2 yrs are on the job training and you qualify with a BSc HONS. Anyone has studied there? have any views on them? recommendations of better places? is the course below pretty good to what one would need for the real world (working) Oh and the cost is R 75 000 for the 1st yr and R 6000 and R 6000 for next 2 yrs.
The course below entails the modules:

(44 weeks full-time, 110 weeks part-time)


All CTI Information Systems graduates acquire a wide range of skills required in the IT industry, enabling them to function fully as IT professionals. They will be able to choose from a wide range of career opportunities. The software development route exposes students to (and gives them extensive practical experience in) a database language and two major programming languages; one as a main language, and the second as an introduction to another language. The course also includes a main operating system, sufficient hardware theory and practical assignments to carry out repairs and troubleshooting, and some background in creating Web pages.

This qualification is an intense and very comprehensive programme that involves on-campus attendance from 08:30 till 16:00, 5 days a week, for 44 weeks. Admittance into this programme is strictly reserved for those candidates who have successfully obtained the required mark in the CTI Aptitude Assessment.

Module Code
Computer Literacy (COML)
Processing and Logic Concepts (PLCS)
Program Design (PROG)
Software Engineering (SENG)
Relational Database and Modelling Design (RDMD)
MS SQL Server (MSQL)
Creating Web Pages (CWPD)
Main Programming Language C++ (CSLA and CSLB)
or Java (JV7A and JV7B)
or C# (CSPA and CSPB)
or VB.NET (VBSA and VBSB)
or PHP (PHPA and PHPB)
Linux Basic (ULNX)
Hardware Essentials (HESS)
Perl (PERL)
2nd Programming Language (One of CSLA, CSPA, JV7A, J2EE, VBSA, PHPA)
Final Practical Exam (FISSD)

•Entrance requirements: Students need to have completed a National Senior Certificate and obtained the required mark in the CTI Aptitude Assessment.
•The certificate in Information Systems (Software Development) has a rating of NQF5 on the South African National Qualifications Framework.
•Upon successful completion of the above qualification, students can upgrade to a BTEC HND Information Systems (Software Development) by completing the following courses:
• Project Management (6 months full-time or part-time)
• IS Project

•Students can start any week in the academic year.
•Students can study on a full-time or part-time schedule


Help Appreciated

Thanks

Stay away from CTI!

My brothers mate also did a 3 year course and they promised to find him work he is now working as a salesman at the local Merc garage.

You only attend lectures for 1 yr and the next 2 yrs are on the job training and you qualify with a BSc HONS.

:wtf: this sounds BS! You need to do a 3 year degree to be considered for a HONS.

Afaik most of the degree courses at CTI are done through UNISA and at UNISA you CAN'T do a degree in less than 3 years. Why not just skip CTI and do the degree directly through UNISA and you won't pay nearly as much for your degree.
 
stay away from CTI: CRAP TRAINING INSTITUTE

i have succesfuly veered a good few student away from this crappy place, after i wasted tons of money , and had to do a proper degree afterwards at another institution, because CTI's qualification was not worth a single cent. everyone is now really happy that they did not go there

stay away, stay away, stay away.
 
2nd Programming Language (One of CSLA, CSPA, JV7A, J2EE, VBSA, PHPA)

Are those even lauguages??? I know J2EE is NOT a language, its a set of JSR standards... If I received a CV that said the person can deveop in J2EE their CV would be put in the shredder.
 
Are those even lauguages??? I know J2EE is NOT a language, its a set of JSR standards... If I received a CV that said the person can deveop in J2EE their CV would be put in the shredder.

HAHA agreed 100% there. I would even be hesitant if they put it down as J2EE because it has been renamed to JEE a long time ago. If you are still learning Java 2 Enterprise Edition you are so far behind the times.
 
Yip CTI is a bust, my experience was about 6 years ago. I wanted to study web design and the recruiter stuck me in a web development course, then I had to start a new module before writing the prac for the previous module (otherwise I would fall behind and have to pay more), this screwed with my head completely so I got a 69, which is a fail (after ace-ing the theory exam).

It seemed to me they set this situation up for me to fail on purpose so I would fall behind. Plus the fact that most of the kids were disruptive in the open plan office environment and my "lecturer"/hall monitor (who seemed to be studying something himself while on the job) was about as useful as a glass hammer. So I quit. Trust me it becomes very pressurised having the extra cost penalty hanging over your head if you need more time to grasp a concept when new to IT.

UNISA or get the books yourself, less expensive, more value.
 
Yeah everything I hear about CTI is pretty much what everyone has said above. I just finished my BSc IT at UJ last year, can highly recommend it and fees are less than 20k a year. Their honours course is also accredited by the BCS.
 
Don't be blinded by all these external opinions on CTI. I am currently a student at the Randburg campus studying Internet Development. My course is also 44 weeks long, full time and I do a lot of the same modules as in the software development/software engineering courses. My older brother also studies there. As far as CTI is concerned, when you write the entrance test your score determines what method of study you can choose to do. There is a lecture's based methodology, but if you score high enough in their entrance test, you can qualify for MLM (Mastered Learning Methodology). This is the downfall of all those people who complain about CTI. MLM requires self-study. You literally go in to a lab, get out your text books, and study at your own pace. CTI gives you a target date for the exam, and you should know all your stuff before that date, however, many people like to screw around and that is what places them behind in their course. You have to be attentive and ask your instructors for guidance rather than sit there complaining. My brother and I have both maintained 86%-95% averages and we are extremely happy with our respective courses. At the end of your course, you get awarded a certificate, not a degree, however you have the option to spend 6 months studying project management in order to upgrade your course to a degree. The degree comes from the London school of business and management as well as Edexcel. these are universities in the United Kingdom and they are internationally recognized. And as far as I know, every company in the IT industry hires over 80% of it's employees from CTI - it is a well known fact within the campus as well. Not only do they provide you with higher education, but you can also ask your instructors to host workshops if you feel you need more practice within that module, and they guide you through job interviews (how to act, dress, etc) and then an EXTERNAL company that is partnered with CTI sits with you and interviews you from the first month of your course right through to the end and based on your choices and interests they help place you in a job. If you know your daughter is a hard worker, then CTI is the way to go, however, if she gets distracted easily, then I wouldn't advise it.
 
Don't be blinded by all these external opinions on CTI. I am currently a student at the Randburg campus studying Internet Development. My course is also 44 weeks long, full time and I do a lot of the same modules as in the software development/software engineering courses. My older brother also studies there. As far as CTI is concerned, when you write the entrance test your score determines what method of study you can choose to do. There is a lecture's based methodology, but if you score high enough in their entrance test, you can qualify for MLM (Mastered Learning Methodology). This is the downfall of all those people who complain about CTI. MLM requires self-study. You literally go in to a lab, get out your text books, and study at your own pace. CTI gives you a target date for the exam, and you should know all your stuff before that date, however, many people like to screw around and that is what places them behind in their course. You have to be attentive and ask your instructors for guidance rather than sit there complaining. My brother and I have both maintained 86%-95% averages and we are extremely happy with our respective courses. At the end of your course, you get awarded a certificate, not a degree, however you have the option to spend 6 months studying project management in order to upgrade your course to a degree. The degree comes from the London school of business and management as well as Edexcel. these are universities in the United Kingdom and they are internationally recognized. And as far as I know, every company in the IT industry hires over 80% of it's employees from CTI - it is a well known fact within the campus as well. Not only do they provide you with higher education, but you can also ask your instructors to host workshops if you feel you need more practice within that module, and they guide you through job interviews (how to act, dress, etc) and then an EXTERNAL company that is partnered with CTI sits with you and interviews you from the first month of your course right through to the end and based on your choices and interests they help place you in a job. If you know your daughter is a hard worker, then CTI is the way to go, however, if she gets distracted easily, then I wouldn't advise it.

My eyes, my eyes.
 
honestly guys, CTI is a joke. if self-paced studying is your thing , follow the Unisa route.
i asked my employer again if he'd take anyone with a CTI diploma; he laughed at the thought.

like i said, i have a CTI diploma, did very well in fact. couldnt find a proper development job until i had a degree. ( and i mentioned the CTI graduates working as security guards... not IT related at all)
now would i really have gone through all the effort to get a degree if a CTI diploma was sufficient?
 
Hehehe

Cti aint the greatest no joke but they got me a job which wasnt great but they got it I didnt stay there long though the company was using legacy systems and i had studied C#. CTI is tough if you aint serious you will hate it but if grind u will make it.... I later got myself a job at a microsoft gold certified company so i guess cti wasnt useless after all must admit there were times I felt they were. #wouldn't go back though.

CTI Grad:D
 
Two 1 post wonders are the only people saying cti is great. LOL!
 
Wow the CTI marketing budget must be pretty low! Come on guys, did classified ads get too expensive?
 
well I'm currently at cti doing my first year and that will be it, the fact that every time something bad is said about cti the theard starts filling up with one post wonders scares me. I don't have any complaints regarding cti but as soon as I'm done with this year I'm out (paid in full, so i'll be finishing my diploma)

i myself would advise not going to cti, the reputation associated with cti means people won't be hiring you! the modules are nice and everything but a bit easy IMO. Will like to see the type of jobs they will be offering at the end of this year? I'm halfway through my language modules and I don't feel very capable of developing, hope the rest are a little more fun....

my 2c regarding cti
 
If you want a BSc (Hons) qualification, go to a proper university. They not in short supply, UCT, Wits, UJ, UP, UPE, UFS, UDW, Rhodes etc etc
 
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