sub-prime crisis

stormchaser

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i will appreciate if someone can tell me what exactly caused the banking crisis.as per suze orman banks sold the mortages to wall street who in turn repackaged it and invested it in the stockmarket and somehow lost money.so was it wall street or uncredit worthy clients.:cool:
 
Hi, I got this same question on my website the other day. The link to my full answer:
http://morethanmoney.co.za/answerview/?questionid=204

If you haven't seen the stick man slide show yet, that really is the most entertaining explanation of how it all started. In the slide show, they talk about pension funds buying the repackaged bad debt, but it could be any institution looking for some yield pick-up by investing in riskier interest-yielding assets, e.g. the trading desks of banks, big prime brokers, etc.
 
That whole stick-man thing explains phase 1 of the problem.

We've now moved into phase 2.

Right now, none of the banks know how much bad debt the other banks are holding (most of them probably don't know how much bad debt they themselves are holding, because it has been so well hidden).

Because of this lack of trust, the banks are unwilling to lend money to one another. A banks primary business is lending money and they are not doing that anymore. Without debt, economies can't function properly, they freeze-up. Hence the term credit-freeze.

So where do they get some 'clean' money to lend to one another? Unfortunatly for us, they withdraw it from 'emerging' markets like ours. In short, America phoned and they want their money back.

This is bad news for us in the short term, but very bad news for America in the long term. Their growth has been financed by debt that they exported to the rest of the world. It turns out their debt was as 'safe' as Chinese milk products. Now they've had to recall it all, borrow even more money to replace it with 'untainted' debt and (the worst part of all), no-one has any trust in their debt anymore.

If no-one trusts yours debt anymore, you have a difficult job convincing people to buy it. If no-one buys it they can't finance their growth. They're in the poop up to nose level and they can' tread water any more.
 
That whole stick-man thing explains phase 1 of the problem.


If no-one trusts yours debt anymore, you have a difficult job convincing people to buy it. If no-one buys it they can't finance their growth. They're in the poop up to nose level and they can' tread water any more.

Except the US can finance itself and does not need external creditors,
if it was a really serious matter of life-or-death. No other country can be this self-sufficient.
 
Peter, I would hesitate to defend the country that caused all this cr_p all by themselves and their greed!

Another issue is you need to factor in gearing. A bank will always lend out far more money than they actually have. This is based on the fact that they assume the majority of these debts will be repaid... if all of a sudden the bottom falls out of the housing market and the equity in the properties is no longer worth enough to cover the debt you have problems... especially when some of the people you have loaned money to do not even have jobs and are unlikely to be able to repay the debt!

And we all questioned why the NCA was implemented in this country.
 
Except the US can finance itself and does not need external creditors,
if it was a really serious matter of life-or-death. No other country can be this self-sufficient.

Yup, it took the British about 50 years to pay off their war debts, Germans and Japaneses were even quicker, took them less than 30 years.

So yes, you are right, *eventually* the US will be able to pay off their debts and live without external creditors (just don't hold your breath while waiting) ;)

Personally, I think the US just got themselves blacklisted on the ITC and it might take them a few years to clear their name.
 
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