Suggestions for better ping?

Arzy

Arzy

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Recently started playing Warcraft III again over Battle.net, currently I play on the european gateway as I tend to have the best connection there, sure I lose the occasional game gue to lag, but overall it seems fine. I was just wondering if there is possibly some small way I could increase my ping? I don't know if it can get better, just thought I'd take a shot. Supplied below is a 20 ping run of the conditions I normally play in.

Arzy

1 213.248.106.204 32 404 113 0:0:Echo Reply
2 213.248.106.204 32 410 113 0:0:Echo Reply
3 213.248.106.204 32 365 113 0:0:Echo Reply
4 213.248.106.204 32 383 113 0:0:Echo Reply
5 213.248.106.204 32 385 113 0:0:Echo Reply
6 213.248.106.204 32 403 113 0:0:Echo Reply
7 213.248.106.204 32 408 113 0:0:Echo Reply
8 213.248.106.204 32 366 113 0:0:Echo Reply
9 213.248.106.204 32 379 113 0:0:Echo Reply
10 213.248.106.204 32 376 113 0:0:Echo Reply
11 213.248.106.204 32 392 113 0:0:Echo Reply
12 213.248.106.204 32 377 113 0:0:Echo Reply
13 213.248.106.204 32 382 113 0:0:Echo Reply
14 213.248.106.204 32 398 113 0:0:Echo Reply
15 213.248.106.204 32 411 113 0:0:Echo Reply
16 213.248.106.204 32 363 113 0:0:Echo Reply
17 213.248.106.204 32 396 113 0:0:Echo Reply
18 213.248.106.204 32 403 113 0:0:Echo Reply
19 213.248.106.204 32 368 113 0:0:Echo Reply
20 213.248.106.204 32 365 113 0:0:Echo Reply

Pinging europe.battle.net [213.248.106.204] with 32 data bytes
Start Time: Tue, 20 Jul 2004 08:23:11
ANALYSIS:Target reached by one or more packets.
20 packets transmitted, 20 packets received, 0% packet loss
round-trip (ms) min/avg/max = 363/386/411
 
Here is a snapshot using Hypertrace to that same address.

1,165.165.128.1,9ms,rndf-128-01.telkomadsl.co.za,----
2,196.43.10.181,10ms,rndf-ip-er-2-fe-12-0-1-1.telkom-ipnet.co.za,----
<font color="red">3,196.43.9.50,374ms,london-dir-telecity-pos-8-0-0.telkom-ipnet.co.za,----</font id="red">4,213.155.141.153,377ms,ldn-tci-col1-gig-2-7.col.uk.telia.net,----
5,213.248.74.1,356ms,ldn-bb1-pos1-2-0.telia.net,----
6,213.248.65.150,405ms,adm-bb1-pos6-0-0.telia.net,----
7,213.248.65.154,400ms,hbg-bb1-pos7-0-0.telia.net,----
8,213.248.65.145,450ms,kbn-bb1-pos1-2-0.telia.net,----
9,213.248.65.26,408ms,s-bb1-pos7-0-0.telia.net,----
10,213.248.66.2,431ms,s-b3-pos5-0.telia.net,----
11,213.248.64.86,400ms,s-hdn-i1-geth1-1.telia.net,----
12,213.248.106.204,374ms,213-248-106-204.customer.teliacarrier.com,----

See at that highlighted spot how the ping jumps from 10ms to 374. THAT'S where all the problems lie. The jump from S.A. to London.

Now if Jbg to Cape Town is 1000 Km and only pings 10ms, then Jbg to London, which is approx. 6000 Km , should only take 60ms.

Conclusion: Telkom is bouncing us via sattelite, hence the excessive lag time. It's a lot longer route via space and I seem to remember reading that Telkom owns the ground station here so more than likely cheaper for them. Where is this undersea cable everybody keeps talking about.
 
<blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by Arzy</i>
<br />Recently started playing Warcraft III again over Battle.net, currently I play on the european gateway as I tend to have the best connection there, sure I lose the occasional game gue to lag, but overall it seems fine. I was just wondering if there is possibly some small way I could increase my ping? I don't know if it can get better, just thought I'd take a shot. Supplied below is a 20 ping run of the conditions I normally play in.

Arzy

1 213.248.106.204 32 404 113 0:0:Echo Reply
2 213.248.106.204 32 410 113 0:0:Echo Reply
3 213.248.106.204 32 365 113 0:0:Echo Reply
4 213.248.106.204 32 383 113 0:0:Echo Reply
5 213.248.106.204 32 385 113 0:0:Echo Reply
6 213.248.106.204 32 403 113 0:0:Echo Reply
7 213.248.106.204 32 408 113 0:0:Echo Reply
8 213.248.106.204 32 366 113 0:0:Echo Reply
9 213.248.106.204 32 379 113 0:0:Echo Reply
10 213.248.106.204 32 376 113 0:0:Echo Reply
11 213.248.106.204 32 392 113 0:0:Echo Reply
12 213.248.106.204 32 377 113 0:0:Echo Reply
13 213.248.106.204 32 382 113 0:0:Echo Reply
14 213.248.106.204 32 398 113 0:0:Echo Reply
15 213.248.106.204 32 411 113 0:0:Echo Reply
16 213.248.106.204 32 363 113 0:0:Echo Reply
17 213.248.106.204 32 396 113 0:0:Echo Reply
18 213.248.106.204 32 403 113 0:0:Echo Reply
19 213.248.106.204 32 368 113 0:0:Echo Reply
20 213.248.106.204 32 365 113 0:0:Echo Reply

Pinging europe.battle.net [213.248.106.204] with 32 data bytes
Start Time: Tue, 20 Jul 2004 08:23:11
ANALYSIS:Target reached by one or more packets.
20 packets transmitted, 20 packets received, 0% packet loss
round-trip (ms) min/avg/max = 363/386/411
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Ill do a test tonight from home on my ISDN line and check out the ping. Im sure that if your traffic was going via satellite your pings would be alot higher [around 750ms]... but I could be mistaken. I think your ping is quite high as perhaps it might have something to do with the port shaping that Telkom does... this is just an assumption though.

If you want good pings for your gaming, you WILL have to get unshaped ADSL. If you have seen any posts from Sybawoods, you would have seen he gets a good consistent +- 250ms to Europe and the USA on certain servers.
 
here is my ping... obviously its an ISDN line and is different to ADSL:

Microsoft Windows XP [Version 5.1.2600]
(C) Copyright 1985-2001 Microsoft Corp.

C:\Documents and Settings\Syzygy&gt;ping 213.248.106.204 -n 20

Pinging 213.248.106.204 with 32 bytes of data:

Reply from 213.248.106.204: bytes=32 time=311ms TTL=110
Reply from 213.248.106.204: bytes=32 time=310ms TTL=110
Reply from 213.248.106.204: bytes=32 time=306ms TTL=110
Reply from 213.248.106.204: bytes=32 time=312ms TTL=110
Reply from 213.248.106.204: bytes=32 time=308ms TTL=110
Reply from 213.248.106.204: bytes=32 time=313ms TTL=110
Reply from 213.248.106.204: bytes=32 time=309ms TTL=110
Reply from 213.248.106.204: bytes=32 time=305ms TTL=110
Reply from 213.248.106.204: bytes=32 time=310ms TTL=110
Reply from 213.248.106.204: bytes=32 time=306ms TTL=110
Reply from 213.248.106.204: bytes=32 time=311ms TTL=110
Reply from 213.248.106.204: bytes=32 time=320ms TTL=110
Reply from 213.248.106.204: bytes=32 time=306ms TTL=110
Reply from 213.248.106.204: bytes=32 time=311ms TTL=110
Reply from 213.248.106.204: bytes=32 time=306ms TTL=110
Reply from 213.248.106.204: bytes=32 time=312ms TTL=110
Reply from 213.248.106.204: bytes=32 time=308ms TTL=110
Reply from 213.248.106.204: bytes=32 time=303ms TTL=110
Reply from 213.248.106.204: bytes=32 time=309ms TTL=110
Reply from 213.248.106.204: bytes=32 time=305ms TTL=110

Ping statistics for 213.248.106.204:
Packets: Sent = 20, Received = 20, Lost = 0 (0% loss),
Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:
Minimum = 303ms, Maximum = 320ms, Average = 309ms

YOU SHOULD expect a better ping then this by around 20-30ms using unshaped ADSL...
 
oh yes... BUT as Im sure you know... unshaped ADSL is VERY VERY expensive! And as usual, Telkom WILL NOT gaurantee latencies or anything like that.
 
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