Summer Transfers

Premier League ins and outs

Source: BBC

A nice summary of all the transfers thus far.
 
@ Merc - Of course age matters!!! Its extremely important. Almost every write up comparing the two (messi and Ronaldo) the journo almost always eludes to the fact that Messi is only 21 and is amazed how he is playing at his young age.

Messi > Ronaldo - why is it only United supporters that think that Ronaldo is better?
 
Just my last 2c on Messi and Ronaldo - Reading football blogs and forums people always tend to have the view that most of Ronaldo's goals are scored against poor'ish opposition.

EPL does not have the depth in teams that La Liga and Serie A have. Whenever there is a big match, Ronaldo seems to be non existant. Well most of the big matches.

They also feel that if ***a or Messi have to play against the same opposition, they will have no problem raking in as much goals as Ronaldo.
 
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Lionel Messi poses threat to Cristiano Ronaldo’s reputation
By Associated Press
Tuesday, July 29, 2008 - Added 3d 2h ago


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LONDON - No wonder Manchester United manager Alex Ferguson insists Cristiano Ronaldo would be wrong to play for Real Madrid. The Portuguese star probably would be overshadowed by Lionel Messi.

Ferguson actually believes Ronaldo is at the best club anyway. But the fact that the winger would be compared week by week in the same league as Messi most likely would hurt his chances of proving himself the world’s best player.

Ronaldo relies more on his speed and is better in the air. Messi has the edge in dribbling in tight situations. He draws defenders toward him and out of position, then leaves them trailing with short bursts of fancy footwork, either scoring himself or setting up others.
 
Well the only way to settle who is better for ronaldo to move to madrid.

Hope this happens, would be nice to see how they both do in the same league.
 
My prediction would be that Messi would overshadow Ronaldo in La Liga. La Liga is very different to EPL.

As Xavi said, in the EPL they give u alot of space to run and thats why Ronaldo is so good. He said that if Ronaldo comes to La Liga he wont have any space, cos defenders close u down very quickly.
 
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Yea but its all speculation, until ronaldo moves to spain, thats all it will ever be.

Maybe messi would not be as good in premier league because he has to much space, If he likes to suck in defenders he might find all the space a little to much for him, because there is no doubt ronaldo is fast and accelerates really well. Again im just saying im not saying HE WILL FIND IT HARD. Speculating not saying its cast in stone that he wont do well.

We will see in time, don't get me wrong messi will be a legend.

Hopefully we will see by november when ronaldo should be fit again.
 
Lionel Messi poses threat to Cristiano Ronaldo’s reputation
By Associated Press
Tuesday, July 29, 2008 - Added 3d 2h ago


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LONDON - No wonder Manchester United manager Alex Ferguson insists Cristiano Ronaldo would be wrong to play for Real Madrid. The Portuguese star probably would be overshadowed by Lionel Messi.

Ferguson actually believes Ronaldo is at the best club anyway. But the fact that the winger would be compared week by week in the same league as Messi most likely would hurt his chances of proving himself the world’s best player.

Ronaldo relies more on his speed and is better in the air. Messi has the edge in dribbling in tight situations. He draws defenders toward him and out of position, then leaves them trailing with short bursts of fancy footwork, either scoring himself or setting up others.

What rubbish. Are you seriously suggesting that Fergy doesn't want Ronaldo to go cos Fergy is scared Ronaldo will be overshadowed? ROFLMAO. That's desperate to say the least.
This article is poorly written. I suspect an amateur wrote it or someone purposely edited it for his own agendas. Not even a link.

My prediction would be that Messi would overshadow Ronaldo in La Liga. La Liga is very different to EPL.

As Xavi said, in the EPL they give u alot of space to run and thats why Ronaldo is so good. He said that if Ronaldo comes to the EPL he wont have any space, cos defenders close u down very quickly.

If Ronaldo comes to the EPL? I assume you mean SPL. Yeah that makes perfect sense - RM want Ronaldo cos he won't be able to perform :rolleyes:
 
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Another angle is there is alot of politics at Madrid.

Ronaldo vs Ramos. Ronaldo dating Ramos's ex :D

Also Ramos is a diva just like Ronaldo. I predict alot of confrontations happening off the pitch with egos clashing all the time.
 
Ok guys how about we try and be nice to each other, lots of smiley faces and tongues out. :) :p

I'm thinking we can do it?
 
What rubbish. Are you seriously suggesting that Fergy doesn't want Ronaldo to go cos Fergy is scared Ronaldo will be overshadowed? ROFLMAO. That's desperate to say the least.



If Ronaldo comes to the EPL? I assume you mean SPL. Yeah that makes perfect sense - RM want Ronaldo cos he won't be able to perform :rolleyes:

Dont u believe it when Fergie says, that if Ronaldo leaves for Spain it will be the worst choice he can make in his career? Fergie knows, if Ronaldo goes - he will fail.

LoL - In United fans books - Fergie is NEVER EVER wrong. So its my understanding that you are saying he is wrong this time? :D

Whenever it suits you hey :D

He even said that when he was on tour here in SA.

I was just stating what Xavi and other experts have said. They said that he wont have the space, i kinda believe them over you ;)
 
I don't think United want to keep him because they worried about him failing.

United don't want to be known as a club who sell players like ronaldo.
 
Dont u believe it when Fergie says, that if Ronaldo leaves for Spain it will be the worst choice he can make in his career? Fergie knows, if Ronaldo goes - he will fail.

LoL - In United fans books - Fergie is NEVER EVER wrong. So its my understanding that you are saying he is wrong this time? :D

Whenever it suits you hey :D

He even said that when he was on tour here in SA.

I was just stating what Xavi and other experts have said. They said that he wont have the space, i kinda believe them over you ;)

We don't know for sure what the outcome will be once he leaves for Madrid. This is all stupid speculation. I don't care what Fergy says. I use my own intuition and prefer to not get fed and brainwashed by nonsense and rubbish on the internet.
 
I don't think United want to keep him because they worried about him failing.

United don't want to be known as a club who sell players like ronaldo.

What he meant was that he will fail in Spain. Thats not my words, thats Fergie's words.

United have sold:
Beckham
Van Nistelrooy

Why not Ronaldo?
 
We don't know for sure what the outcome will be once he leaves for Madrid. This is all stupid speculation. I don't care what Fergy says. I use my own intuition and prefer to not get fed and brainwashed by nonsense and rubbish on the internet.

Its not the internet dude. I saw the interview it was on Mnet and freakin SABC 3. He said those words that it will be a career ending decision if he leaves for Madrid.

What ill take out of this is, Fergie isnt always right then :D
 
The difference is Fergie no longer want Ruud or Beckham, they where not forced into sell, they sold because they did not those 2 anymore.

Ronaldo its different, they will mind if he leaves.

Fergie is just saying that to stop Ronaldo wanting to leave, i believe it would be good for him to move, nothing more he can acheive at united and it must be killing him to hear people say ***A and Messi are better.

I know if i was him i would want to move and prove myself.
 
Ok, not to harp on this boring Ronaldo issue. Last words from me :D

I think he wants to leave not for the Messi or K*ka, i think he wants to leave cos of greed - the big pay day and also the fact that he wanted to play for Real Madrid since he was a kid. So he sees that as the pinnacle of any footballers career.

Anyways - nice chat boys.
 
Its not the internet dude. I saw the interview it was on Mnet and freakin SABC 3. He said those words that it will be a career ending decision if he leaves for Madrid.

What ill take out of this is, Fergie isnt always right then :D

Don't talk nonsense to me plz. This was a direct copy/paste jobby from the internet. Go read what you pasted there.

Lionel Messi poses threat to Cristiano Ronaldo’s reputation
By Associated Press

Tuesday, July 29, 2008 - Added 3d 2h ago


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LONDON - No wonder Manchester United manager Alex Ferguson insists Cristiano Ronaldo would be wrong to play for Real Madrid. The Portuguese star probably would be overshadowed by Lionel Messi.

Ferguson actually believes Ronaldo is at the best club anyway. But the fact that the winger would be compared week by week in the same league as Messi most likely would hurt his chances of proving himself the world’s best player.

Ronaldo relies more on his speed and is better in the air. Messi has the edge in dribbling in tight situations. He draws defenders toward him and out of position, then leaves them trailing with short bursts of fancy footwork, either scoring himself or setting up others.

You must've heard SABC3 real quick, memorised all their words and typed this up so quick. Wow, you're amazing :rolleyes:
Lol, you can even see the quote saying Email printable. Geez, you're a big liar.
 
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Don't talk nonsense to me plz. This was a direct copy/paste jobby from the internet. Go read what you pasted there.



You must've heard SABC3 real quick, memorised all their words and typed this up so quick. Wow, you're amazing :rolleyes:
Lol, you can even see the quote saying Email printable. Geez, you're a big liar.

You sound like an old guy who just wants to argue.

When United played Chiefs and Pirates he said those words. LoL It was in the press conference!!!!

You thought it was from that article i posted. hahahhahahaha:rolleyes:

He said those words in a press conference. It was on SABC 3 and Mnet!!!!!!!!!

Read what i typed slowly and let it sink in. maybe i should try this, nice big letters for you.

IT WAS NOT FROM THAT ARTICLE, IT WAS FROM WHEN FERGIE WAS HERE IN SOUTH AFRICA DURING THE PRESS CONFERENCE. IT WAS NOT FROM THE INTERNET!!

Dont call me a liar, when u dont know the facts;)
 
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