Survival Hunter DPS

[werries2]

Tested a bit last night with the bleed effect and new wild quiver on MM hunters. This is a quite a nice dps boost, and I manged to do about 500dps more on training dummies than before.
In my dual spec I have gone survival, but so far could not do extencive testing on it. The black arrow is quite nice though, but it is one more cool down that survival hunters will have to keep track of together with the million others they already do. With changes to other SV tallents it is also quite a bit harder to decide yet what SV spec will be best.

 

[Pornolio]

I am very keen to get going on the PTR as well. Just wanna see how to manage the shot rotations. Gotta watch serpent sting as well as black arrow dot now... AFAIK they both stack, but only black arrow can proc L&L now.

Black Arrow shot also enforces a GCD, so that might be very tricky for shot rotations. Dont pay attention to much to test dummies, since dps in raids vs test dummies differ drastically once your stats start balancing out.

On a good note, after countless Naxx 25 man runs... that damn stupid gun dropped eventually, so Envoy is mine... my precious !!!

Now just to level up my gun skill.

BTW werries, how did you find the ES on the PTR ? Still as good as it is now, or did you notice any **silent** nerfs ?
Also is the black arrow shot any good ? overrated ?

 

[werries2]

ES is still quite nice, I have seen no nerfs to it. (a few shots like Kill shot seems to have a GCD now or atleast placing it in every macro now does not work as it used to)
But ES compared to the new Cimmera shot becomes and interesting option. A cimmera shot of 7k crit with 30% bleed is really not bad. Would like to see the bleed effects stack though, or it should be over a shorter time.

We did not manage to go into Ulduar last night, due to a few critical roles not present

Oh hunters can now change pets without needing to go to a stable keeper we have a new skill (on 30 min CD) to select a different stabled pet.
I will have a more carefull look at the SV tallents tonight (including black arrow), but sofar I love MM spec

 

[werries2]

Oh and grats on the gun! Seems you guys were unlucky concerning it, we have DE'ed 2 already But I want to get my Staff before we leave Naxx!

 

[Cynicster]

GIEF STAFF AND CLOAK!!! >_<
Those two items don't exist I swear... well maybe not on our server.

What I was wondering is: Does Black Arrow trigger trap CD? I read somewhere that it might which would suck huge kodo balls.

 

[werries2]

GIEF STAFF AND CLOAK!!! >_<
Those two items don't exist I swear... well maybe not on our server.

What I was wondering is: Does Black Arrow trigger trap CD? I read somewhere that it might which would suck huge kodo balls.

Have the cloak as well, it is just that damn staff

Black arrow does indeed trigger trap CD.
And it is on the GCD a long with Kill shot

Done an hour worth of testing this afternoon on the test dummies, and I get ~400dps less with SV spec compared to MM. Added that SV will have better raid buffs may cancel the effects out, but I can only test that when the rest of the slackers in my raid group have transfered.