Nerfherder
Honorary Master
Not sure if this should be in Food/cooking, PD or heath but I think that it releates to health and lifestyle the most... so here goes.
So as an avid meat eater I often find myself being the target of vegan/vegetarian ambushes. I love a good debate - however after years of engaging them I have actually managed to concede a few points:
1: Our farming methods are ****ed. Massive wastage and cruelty and poor quality and it takes up too much land.
2: We eat too much meat - this is a new thing... and we waste even more
3: Meat complicates our lives in terms of hygene and handling and it gives us a massive carbon foot print.
Basically weather we like it or not meat is not a viable/sustainable option for the future.
The vegans are extreemists though and what they fail to see is that the problem is waste... and human existence. No matter what we do we screw up the world.
Thats besides the point.
The main thing i'm considering now is that in the future we wont be able to get meat. It will be too expensive and with the limited resources avaialble its not going to make sense for us to grow animals purely for consumption.
Meat is going to become an extream luxuary and even then a rare thing to get hold of. Basically game and wild animals.
I became convinced of this while watching a program on future food the other day. Two options stood out as things that are going to be realites:
1: Mycoprotein
2: Test tube meat
3: Soylent green
Test tube meat is still pie in the sky, insanely expensive but one day the tech will be cheap enough to use in the mainstream.
Mycoprotein is on the other hand a reality. You can walk into PicknPay right now and get it off the shelf. Its a bit on the expensive side but its an option that exists right now.
When I first saw Quorn advertised it sounded like mashed up veg made to look like meat products (Like frys etc) then I saw how they make it and I realised this is something else entirely.
This is a completely new food type. Basically a fungus that they grow in vats, basted on what they add will make it like chicken or beef. Raw it looks like pink slime.
Whats interesting is that when vegans bleat on about vegan options being better for the enviroment they mean this - It uses the least mount of water, space and resources and is high in fiber and protien while low in colestrol.
After reading about this type of thing in The Expanse series I realised that its definately the way of the future and the best way to grow food in space. So being the science minded person I am I went to go check it out.
I was shocked, if you served these "chicken" nuggets at a party I doubt anyone would know its not meat. If you compared it with Mcnuggets most people would probably say the Quorn is the real meat.
I don't think i'll move over to the darkside just yet but its good to know my brain can be tricked in to eating fake meat.
So as an avid meat eater I often find myself being the target of vegan/vegetarian ambushes. I love a good debate - however after years of engaging them I have actually managed to concede a few points:
1: Our farming methods are ****ed. Massive wastage and cruelty and poor quality and it takes up too much land.
2: We eat too much meat - this is a new thing... and we waste even more
3: Meat complicates our lives in terms of hygene and handling and it gives us a massive carbon foot print.
Basically weather we like it or not meat is not a viable/sustainable option for the future.
The vegans are extreemists though and what they fail to see is that the problem is waste... and human existence. No matter what we do we screw up the world.
Thats besides the point.
The main thing i'm considering now is that in the future we wont be able to get meat. It will be too expensive and with the limited resources avaialble its not going to make sense for us to grow animals purely for consumption.
Meat is going to become an extream luxuary and even then a rare thing to get hold of. Basically game and wild animals.
I became convinced of this while watching a program on future food the other day. Two options stood out as things that are going to be realites:
1: Mycoprotein
2: Test tube meat
3: Soylent green
Test tube meat is still pie in the sky, insanely expensive but one day the tech will be cheap enough to use in the mainstream.
Mycoprotein is on the other hand a reality. You can walk into PicknPay right now and get it off the shelf. Its a bit on the expensive side but its an option that exists right now.
When I first saw Quorn advertised it sounded like mashed up veg made to look like meat products (Like frys etc) then I saw how they make it and I realised this is something else entirely.
This is a completely new food type. Basically a fungus that they grow in vats, basted on what they add will make it like chicken or beef. Raw it looks like pink slime.
Whats interesting is that when vegans bleat on about vegan options being better for the enviroment they mean this - It uses the least mount of water, space and resources and is high in fiber and protien while low in colestrol.
After reading about this type of thing in The Expanse series I realised that its definately the way of the future and the best way to grow food in space. So being the science minded person I am I went to go check it out.
I was shocked, if you served these "chicken" nuggets at a party I doubt anyone would know its not meat. If you compared it with Mcnuggets most people would probably say the Quorn is the real meat.
I don't think i'll move over to the darkside just yet but its good to know my brain can be tricked in to eating fake meat.
