Temp too high?

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Hi All,

I've upgraded my old PC. Took out the old mobo, cpu and hard drive and installed an Intel board, Q8200 and SATAII HDD. I've only got the PSU fan and CPU fan running in the box.

The BIOS reflects CPU temp as 30 degrees and the mobo temp as 73 degrees. I downloaded RealTemp and ran the stress test. The max temp was 76 degrees, with cool down after stress test down to 60 degrees. When I just switch on the PC the temp is 48 degrees with idling temp when browsing at 50 degrees.

I've gathered now that this might be a little too high. The case has some venting holes on the sides but no place to fit a fan. Here is where I need the advise.

1. Would it help if I just fir a fan to circulate air in the box some more?
2. Do I need to drill some holes on the side and install a extractor type fan on the side of the case?
3. Would an rear extractor fan work? (Like this)
 
hey budi..i think the cooler is not seated 100%!
you should get some good thermal compound (Arctic silver 5) & re-seat the standard HSF!
should work! if not get a aftermarket CPU cooler..Coolermaster Hyper TX2 - R200 @ viva cafe
great cooler for the price!
 
PhreakBoy said:
The BIOS reflects CPU temp as 30 degrees
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PhreakBoy said:
When I just switch on the PC the temp is 48 degrees with idling temp when browsing at 50 degrees.
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the bios temp is often if not always actually reported higher than idle temp in the OS.

48degress is definitly too high for idle, even at a high ambient temp.

i suspect that the problem lies with your heatsink/fan, what are you using and how did you install it?
 
Lord Fubar said:
the bios temp is often if not always actually reported higher than idle temp in the OS.

48degress is definitly too high for idle, even at a high ambient temp.

i suspect that the problem lies with your heatsink/fan, what are you using and how did you install it?
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I am using the fan supplied with the CPU. Installed it by applying thermal paste to the copper part of the fan and pressing it against the cpu. Checked all 4 clips and they are tight.

Does the general consensus seem to be that I need to re-apply thermal paste and make sure the fan sits better?
 
PhreakBoy said:
The BIOS reflects CPU temp as 30 degrees and the mobo temp as 73 degrees.
I've gathered now that this might be a little too high. The case has some venting holes on the sides but no place to fit a fan. Here is where I need the advise.
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NO FANS?!?!!? Get a new case! If your MB temps are 73 then there is NO air flow. Get a case with at least one intake and one exhaust fan... and what the other guys said, reseat the heatsink with a decent thermal compound, preferably arctic Silver 5
 
invest in an aftermarket cooler, your q8200 will love you for it. cm hyper tx2 is a good budget buy or if you have a bit extra to spend then go for the goodstuff: thermalright ultra 120 ;-)
 
Lord Fubar said:
invest in an aftermarket cooler, your q8200 will love you for it. cm hyper tx2 is a good budget buy or if you have a bit extra to spend then go for the goodstuff: thermalright ultra 120 ;-)
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Thanks. I've looked at both. The Thermalright looks complicated, would I be able to install it? Is it not overkill? I'm pressuming if I decide to go for it, it would be the LGA775 one?

But if the Coolermaster would do the job nicely I might as well go with it. I'm not keen on trying to overclock the CPU so won't need a super fan.
 
I would guess it's a problem with air ventilation. If you had improperly seated the CPU it would report higher temps - like 70c or above. And a case with no ventilation is going to have real problems. Try taking off the side panel and reading the temps after a day like that. If it goes down significantly then it's definitely the case. There is nothing worse than a cheap chassis, really it's worth spending some money for one with proper vents. I think even a single 120mm pointing out with a honeycomb inflow vent would do wonders.
 
Ok, so it is either a different case or a different CPU fan. Logic tells me that the stock fan can't be too bad as Intel would have tested it with the CPU.

Maybe it is time for a new case. The old one is damn heavy and a new one could brighten up the room. :D

Thanks for all the advice, keep it coming. I'm definately going to try and run the PC with one side panel off.
 
cerebus said:
I would guess it's a problem with air ventilation. If you had improperly seated the CPU it would report higher temps - like 70c or above. And a case with no ventilation is going to have real problems. Try taking off the side panel and reading the temps after a day like that. If it goes down significantly then it's definitely the case. There is nothing worse than a cheap chassis, really it's worth spending some money for one with proper vents. I think even a single 120mm pointing out with a honeycomb inflow vent would do wonders.
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with the 45nm cpu's, if the cooler is not seated 100% it would idle @ about 45'C! (had this problem with a E8400, just reseated the cooler & 33'C idle with std HSF)

The TRUE 120 is prob. the best air cooler around! but if you are not going to OC..get the TX2..

1st try to re-seat the std HSF..coz the 45nm cpu's run very cool! if that dont work get a CM690..or get a CPU cooler..or both! what ever you can afford @ the time!
 
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But with no vents even with the best aftermarket cooler it's going to be rotating hot air. Actually it's mainly the mobo temps that make me think it isn't the hsf. If cpu is hot and mobo isn't then check the fan. If both are hot then check the air. But I dunno, it never hurts to get a good quality aftermarket cooler.
 
So where do I get a TX2 from? I'm thinking Incredible Corruptions won't stock it.
 
if you are ok with buying online there are quite a few places, like sybaritic etc

but if you wanna walk in then i haven't any suggestions as im in ct.
 
Only problem I see with buying it online is that shipping would be 25% of the price.

But maybe it is the best route. But I guess ultimately I'd also have to consider getting a new case...
 
take some pics of your case, wanna see wots goin on . . .

u dont have to buy online, there are plenty suppliers in jhb! some1 will make a suggestion here sooner or later
 
Can you not just add some exhaust fans at the back of the case? This will suck out all hot air, with cool air coming in the side vents you said you had.
 
Budza said:
Can you not just add some exhaust fans at the back of the case? This will suck out all hot air, with cool air coming in the side vents you said you had.
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That is what I thought. Look at the fan I linked in option 3 in OP.
 
That thing is a bit hectic though. Is there no grille at the back below PSU where you can screw a standard 80/120mm fan? This exhaust, combined with PSU fan should be sufficient for most PC cooling, esp for 45nm CPU. I have a 120mm at the back, plus another as intake at the front with dust filters etc. This is the cheaper & quieter solution to your problem. Can you up pics of your case? Or give us the name/type so we can google it. It sounds like a decent case (heavy) so should have adequate cooling capabilities.
 
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