Tesla - would you?

falcon786 said:
I felt the same when I first drove a mutitronic car from AUDI which a friend bought but I got used to it when I drove it more often.Eventually I found it to be a better drive since it keeps you in the power band almost always.


The beauty of electric motors is this was probably just a software issue,if they make a decent algorithm for traction in snow it could easily make any driver a good snow driver.These things can be changed with electric motors simply using voltage control (Variac type system?) so probably just the model you drove didn't do it too well.
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All true I suppose
 
I'd love a Tesla. Both in terms of not having to be enslaved by the oil corporations, as well as the rather geeky options that it has.
 
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falcon786 said:
I felt the same when I first drove a mutitronic car from AUDI which a friend bought but I got used to it when I drove it more often.Eventually I found it to be a better drive since it keeps you in the power band almost always.


The beauty of electric motors is this was probably just a software issue,if they make a decent algorithm for traction in snow it could easily make any driver a good snow driver.These things can be changed with electric motors simply using voltage control (Variac type system?) so probably just the model you drove didn't do it too well.
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This is a very good point! Again being electric the Tesla didn't creep forward when in traffic like piston driven vehicles, people complained about that and Tesla added a creep function in a software update
 
Maverick Jester said:
I'd love a Tesla. Both in terms of not having to be enslaved to the oil corporations, as well as the rather geeky options that it has.
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Segg said:
This is a very good point! Again being electric the Tesla didn't creep forward when in traffic like piston driven vehicles, people complained about that and Tesla added a creep function in a software update
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Thats pretty cool,we cry for small software updates on phones lol imagine how we will cry for software updates on our electric cars in the future!
 
PseudZ said:
And government won't be happy with the loss of income from fuel.
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This is part of the reasoning behind e-tolling where you're taxed for distance travelled regardless of fuel type being used.
I'd expect government to just slap on an extra tax on new sales of EV's to make up for losses (in contrast with overseas where governments are granting subsidies if you purchase an EV).
 
Paul_S said:
This is part of the reasoning behind e-tolling where you're taxed for distance travelled regardless of fuel type being used.
I'd expect government to just slap on an extra tax on new sales of EV's to make up for losses (in contrast with overseas where governments are granting subsidies if you purchase an EV).
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Of course they would, so the time is now to build your own EV, because I am sure the cANCer will in time make it illegal to make your own, to protect their cash-cows and rape holes.
 
The second our family can afford an electric car we are getting one. Realistically we are looking at a Nissan Leaf.
 
Yeah I wouldn't mind one in my garage as a kief daily, though only so that I can have a proper car (V8/10/12 over 4L please) for weekends and such.
 
ghoti said:
The second our family can afford an electric car we are getting one. Realistically we are looking at a Nissan Leaf.
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A Nissan Leaf plus home charger will set you back somewhere around R480 000.
Then on top of it you need to replace the battery pack at a cost of around $15000 (R155 635) every 5 to 15 years.
Some owners are reporting problems with their batteries only charging to 70% capacity after 5 years.
The other option is a $100 (R1040) per month battery maintenance fee where the batteries will be maintained by Nissan and swapped out with new or recon units when required.
I'm not sure what options Nissan SA offer.

You can buy plenty of vehicle and fuel for that price tag.
It just doesn't make a lot of financial sense at the current prices IMO.
Get the Leaf down to R200K to R300K and then we may be getting somewhere.

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I see there are a couple of 2013 Nissan "Leaves" on Autotrader for just under R400K.
 
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Paul_S said:
A Nissan Leaf plus home charger will set you back somewhere around R480 000.
Then on top of it you need to replace the battery pack at a cost of around $15000 (R155 635) every 5 to 15 years.
Some owners are reporting problems with their batteries only charging to 70% capacity after 5 years.
The other option is a $100 (R1040) per month battery maintenance fee where the batteries will be maintained by Nissan and swapped out with new or recon units when required.
I'm not sure what options Nissan SA offer.

You can buy plenty of vehicle and fuel for that price tag.
It just doesn't make a lot of financial sense at the current prices IMO.
Get the Leaf down to R200K to R300K and then we may be getting somewhere.

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I see there are a couple of 2013 Nissan "Leaves" on Autotrader for just under R400K.
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Agreed. As things stand, a leaf is simply not viable. For less than that you can get very decent diesel cars with low enough consumption that it would take years to make up the base price difference, especially taking into account the maintenance charges on a leaf.
 
The biggest cost component is the motor it seems. Eina... like R20k for a 20kw 110V DC motor.
 
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