The 911 BBC Blunder

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March 1, 2007
As today is my last day setting the homepage for The Santa Fe New Mexican I thought I would bid you all farewell. I resigned two weeks ago to better pursue my personal interests. It is to my great amusement however that this day coincides with an astonishing story to share in this blog. There is an uproar rising across the Internet over what is being called yet another blatant, 9/11 smoking gun.

Early this week an independent researcher, reviewing video archives of the BBC's 9/11 coverage, divulged the discovery of an earth shaking incongruence. BBC reporters announced the collapse of the 47 story Salomon Brothers Building 23 minutes BEFORE the actual sudden collapse. This building, also known as WTC 7, is clearly visible, standing tall, as a reporter gestures to the live view through the window behind her.

Despite the fact the Google censored the initial internet premier of this archived video, removing it from their video service, many more "mirrors" of the video were then set up across the net. Watch the video here.

Some may find this simply bewildering or a coincidental mistake. For 9/11 researchers it is a further revealing piece of evidence confirming internal premeditation to demolish the WTC. In response to demands for an explanation the BBC released a statement denying confirmation and foreknowledge. I recommend everyone wanting a good laugh to read their response.

The BBC claim that they lost the tapes of their 9/11 coverage due to a, and I quote, "cock-up, not conspiracy."
They just happened to lose their coverage of the most critical and historic event in the 21st century? The BBC's general policy on media managment states:

The following components to be retained:-
· Two broadcast standard copies of all transmitted/published TV, Radio and BBCi output – one to be stored on a separate site as a master
· One browse-quality version for research purposes, to protect the broadcast material
· All supporting metadata to enable research and re-use
· A selection of original (i.e. unedited) material for re-use/re-versioning purposes
· Hardware/software/equipment to enable replay/transfer of the media

Obviously coverage like the 9/11 attacks would have merited many more copies than everyday broadcasts. And we are to believe the are all lost?

The BBC states that the events of 9/11 are "seared" in the memory of reporter Jane Standley, but that she can't remember what happened minute by minute. Personally I think watching a building collapse just minutes after saying it already had would be quite memorable.

The BBC tries to excuse possible mistakes due to the confusion of the day. But how many other 47 story buildings are near the WTC? No other buildings fell around the time or area of the Salomon Brothers Building (WTC 7.) No other steel-frame buildings in the history of the world have even collapsed "due to fire" beside WTC 1, 2 and 7. Building 7 wasn't hit by an airplane and wasn't even directly adjacent to the twin towers. Calling that shot is no coincidence.

The BBC states: "We do have the tapes for our sister channel News 24, but they don't help clear up the issue one way or another." I'll say they don't clear it up, at least not how the BBC would like. Tapes of News 24 (wait, let me find a new link, Google Video has now censored the footage from News 24... here is one!) have other reporters claiming they "are being told" that WTC 7 has collapsed. The time-stamp on News 24 further confirms that the press release the BBC was apparently issued came out 23 minutes before the actual collapse.

"Are being told"? But the BBC now claims "We didn't get told in advance that buildings were going to fall down. We didn't receive press releases or scripts in advance of events happening." And yet the BBC "rebuttal" goes on to say they always source their reports. I think we will have to follow the evidence on that one.

The BBC response finishes saying that an error is not evidence of conspiracy. (Lol. Is a random commenter on YouTube the best source they can get now?) You call it an error if it was committed once. But three times? It has now emerged that CNN reported that WTC 7 "has either collapsed or is collapsing" while the building was still standing. Watch it here.

So now it should be plain to see that there was foreknowledge of Building 7's demise. But how could anyone know? Let's listen to the man who admitted to demolishing the building explain. Ya gotta watch this video excerpted from a September 2002 PBS documentary. That man is Larry Silverstein, the man who leased the WTC buildings mere months before the attack and made billions of dollars on his unusual terrorism insurance plan. "Pull it" is controlled demolition industry jargon for imploding a building. Silverstein's spokesperson later denied the admission, saying he meant "pull the firemen out of the building." Just listen to his statement though and its obvious what he meant.

Might then WTC 7's collapse have been a controlled demolition? Watch the actual collapse again here and see what it looks like. That's Dan Rather's voice. Really tells it like it is there didn't he. The building wasn't in the process of collapsing minutes beforehand, but completely drops in the matter of a few seconds. It drops so fast actually that there is only one known scenario where such a free fall collapse is even physically possible. Controlled demolition.

Dr. Steven E. Jones, former physics professor of BYU University wrote a paper demonstrating this. It lead to his early retirement, but not before being published in a peer reviewed scientific journal. Dr. Jones later performed chemical analysis on melted WTC steel that suggests thermate may have been used in the demolition.

Eye witness testimonies also suggest controlled demolition. Over and over I have seen many different cases: warnings on the street going out before hand, explosions coinciding with the collapse, etc. For the sake of time I'll just mention one story here.

Why does Silverstein explain why they blew 7 up and later retract? I don't know, but in the beginning there were very few people questioning 9/11and he basically related how things went along that day. Nowadays, with Loose Change being the most popular video on Google, questions are going to be asked. Like, how could they take down the building without weeks of planning and placement?

So why the early news reports? The BBC anchor who provides an explanation for the collapse 23 minutes before it even happens may give us some idea. The demolition being planned, an explanation for a huge building disappearing in a matter of seconds might have seemed to be in order, and a press release was prepared ahead of time to start the cover up from the first moment. But perhaps the news wire went out early, or the demolition went off late. This matter, of course, remains to be properly investigated.

There are many more question to be considered, and WTC 7 is just a small part of 9/11. For a look at the bigger picture and to answer some of those questions check out the film Terrorstorm. Thats enough to get someone started anyway.

The BBC is quick to deny that they are "part of the conspiracy" (italics added) and yet ironically that statement itself almost implies that there is a conspiracy.

And thus I turn in my badge, err, parking permit, and say goodbye to The New Mexican. Perhaps I'm leaving you with a question though. Why aren't the big TV news programs and newspapers covering the BBC's remarkable gift for clairvoyance? If you want them to demand it of them.

Better yet, take matters of informing yourself into your own hands. As I hope this blog entry has demonstrated, we have the technology with the Internet to move from the old autocratic information paradigm into a democratic system. Instead of today's five media companies who own most of the news industry dictating self-serving knowledge to millions of Americans, information can be traded freely based on its inherent merits in a diverse and widespread self correcting network.

But to come to face the ground truth we must take the time to ween ourselves from the old pipeline and open up to a bigger picture. 911blogger is a useful site for 9/11 news in this process. Alex Jones is an excellent news source to start looking at to understand the forces of fascism, tyranny and corruption taking control of the highest levels of our government. If you like the videos I used to post occasionally in my blog there are many more in a new feature called Rense TV part way down rense.com. There are many others out there as well, but use your discernment to weed out disinformation. Check the sources for yourself and confirm.

Obviously I don't agree with everything presented at these sites. But that's the point. Think for yourself. Push your limits. Become your own Editor.
 
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(no way did the bbc 'lose' tapes.)

Reminds me of watching late night bbc when the 911 pentagon video was released. I saw one version, couldn't believe what I was seeing (looked like a missile strike,) waited for the next report, and on the very next report was a different video (the cut up low quality version we see on the internet.)

Similar or same video but full frames, ie, not the cut-up, stop action version.
 
Media Blacklists BBC Fiasco; Google, Digg Censor 9/11 Truth
http://prisonplanet.com/articles/march2007/010307mediablacklists.htm
more assorted linkies including the interesting...
"Meanwhile, a programmer claims to have hacked Digg and found evidence of a deliberate campaign to censor controversial news stories and those relating to 9/11 truth.
The Information Liberation website concludes that there are "Tons of obvious shills burying our recent explosive WTC 7 articles as well as many other articles of extreme significance. It's shocking to read the list and see how much significant, documented, and extremely popular content is being buried for obvious ideological reasons."

http://www.lemieuxster.com/digg/expose/
 
And I suppose the videos of the planes hitting the buildings was all CG. "911 truthers" - delusional first worlders with too much time on their hands suffering a bad case of denial.
 
And I suppose the videos of the planes hitting the buildings was all CG. "911 truthers" - delusional first worlders with too much time on their hands suffering a bad case of denial.

Well the "one" that hit the Pentagon is skeptical.
 
And I suppose the videos of the planes hitting the buildings was all CG. "911 truthers" - delusional first worlders with too much time on their hands suffering a bad case of denial.
:D Ya, riiiight.
 
And I suppose the videos of the planes hitting the buildings was all CG. "911 truthers" - delusional first worlders with too much time on their hands suffering a bad case of denial.

Stranger things have happened. Most of the world still believes we landed on the moon already. Don't know why.
 
re "And I suppose the videos of the planes hitting the buildings was all CG. "911 truthers" - delusional first worlders with too much time on their hands suffering a bad case of denial."

you have issues :)

You should in fact be asking:

* Why didn’t US jets intercept the airliners since they had numerous warnings of terrorist attacks?
* Why did Ashcroft stop flying commercial airlines then, citing an unidentified "threat" in July of 2001?
* Why were there no photos or videos of the Pentagon plane taken after the supposed crash?
* Why did the US Secret Service not hustle President Bush out of the school classroom?
* Where are all of the flight recorders of these planes?
* How did Bush see the first plane crash on live camera? He's mentioned this at least twice.
* How did the US agency come up with the supposed culprits names so quickly?
* Why the strange pattern of the debris from Flight 93? Debris from a crashed plane isn't found 6 miles away usually.
* Why did President Bush stop all inquiries into terrorist operations of the bin Laden family in early 2001?
* Why did none of the hijackers names appear on the passenger lists?
* Why would these hijackers, who are devout Muslims frequent bars, strip clubs, leave their credit cards and allow their drivers licenses with their photos to be Zeroxed?
* Why did these hijackers force the passengers to call their relatives?
* What happened to the Black Boxes that each plane had?
* Why didn’t the FBI release the air traffic controllers’ protocols?
* Who was it that videoed the first plane hitting the WTC tower? Why did he disappear from the media? Where is he now?
* Where did the photos of these hijackers come from so quickly if all of them had perished in these planes?
* What about the names of the hijackers who were supposed to have died but they are still alive?
* Why did two US carrier battle groups arrive in the Gulf of Arabia just of the Pakistan coast just before 9/11?
* Why didn’t Bush immediately interrupt his school reading class when he heard of the first plane crash into the WTC?
 
re "And I suppose the videos of the planes hitting the buildings was all CG. "911 truthers" - delusional first worlders with too much time on their hands suffering a bad case of denial."

you have issues

* Why didn’t US jets intercept the airliners since they had numerous warnings of terrorist attacks?
* Why did Ashcroft stop flying commercial airlines then, citing an unidentified "threat" in July of 2001?
* Why were there no photos or videos of the Pentagon plane taken after the supposed crash?
* Why did the US Secret Service not hustle President Bush out of the school classroom?
* Where are all of the flight recorders of these planes?
* How did Bush see the first plane crash on live camera? He's mentioned this at least twice.
* How did the US agency come up with the supposed culprits names so quickly?
* Why the strange pattern of the debris from Flight 93? Debris from a crashed plane isn't found 6 miles away usually.
* Why did President Bush stop all inquiries into terrorist operations of the bin Laden family in early 2001?
* Why did none of the hijackers names appear on the passenger lists?
* Why would these hijackers, who are devout Muslims frequent bars, strip clubs, leave their credit cards and allow their drivers licenses with their photos to be Zeroxed?
* Why did these hijackers force the passengers to call their relatives?
* What happened to the Black Boxes that each plane had?
* Why didn’t the FBI release the air traffic controllers’ protocols?
* Who was it that videoed the first plane hitting the WTC tower? Why did he disappear from the media? Where is he now?
* Where did the photos of these hijackers come from so quickly if all of them had perished in these planes?
* What about the names of the hijackers who were supposed to have died but they are still alive?
* Why did two US carrier battle groups arrive in the Gulf of Arabia just of the Pakistan coast just before 9/11?
* Why didn’t Bush immediately interrupt his school reading class when he heard of the first plane crash into the WTC?

Thanks for patronising me.

These questions have more to do with poor political judgment, bureaucratic incompetence, shadowy money making, and minutia - than a massive conspiracy kept secret by 100s of people.

However, if you seriously believe that the U.S. brought those building down via controlled demolitions..then my saying "You have issues" isn't appropriate. I'll be a little more specific.. You're gullible..and perhaps a little..simple?

Conspiracy is attractive. It's intriguing. People enjoy a good mystery. That doesn't make it truth. Those pentagon videos and "reconstructions" are "very fun" to watch. Too bad they were "enough" and after seeing them you didn't look further (or at least beyond the narrow vision of a couple of websites with clear agendas):

http://www.videosift.com/video/911-Pentagon-Crash-Dear-tin-foil-hat-crowd-please-shut-th
 
You're the patronising one, by honestly thinking that large scale events, such as 911 - can just 'happen' due to vast numbers of 'coincidences' - which, by the way, lose the ability of being termed 'coincidences' when you get hundreds of them clustered together.
This then has to be called 'a general systematic outline of a pre-planned Event'.

Thinking that 911 is about 'a few websites with clear agenda's' marks you
as rather unsophisticated.

a) These questions have more to do with "poor political judgment, bureaucratic incompetence, shadowy money making, and minutia"

So 'shadowy money making' - to the tune of hundreds of millions of dollars, in the case of put options, indicate nothing about systematic foreknowledge by individuals (who oddly were never investigated)
http://911research.wtc7.net/sept11/stockputs.html

So 'shadowy money making' - to the tune of thousands of millions of dollars by the President's own father and his pals in the Carlyle Group - are just 'coincidence'.
http://www.hereinreality.com/carlyle.html
"But since the start of the "war on terrorism", the firm - unofficially valued at $13.5bn - has taken on an added significance. Carlyle has become the thread which indirectly links American military policy in Afghanistan to the personal financial fortunes of its celebrity employees, not least the current president's father. And, until earlier this month, Carlyle provided another curious link to the Afghan crisis: among the firm's multi-million-dollar investors were members of the family of Osama bin Laden"

"poor political judgment, bureaucratic incompetence, shadowy money making, and minutia"
made FBI agents receive 'stop investigating Bin Laden' orders, ahead of 911? Its just 'coincidence'

- which caused the resignation of John O Neil, one of the premier Bin Laden experts in the FBI, ahead of 911, in protest..(he became head of security at WTC, and died in his first day on the job - on 911)
- which caused Colleen Rowley (listed by Time magazine, as one of their Women of the Year) to turn whistleblower in protest of the White House and FBI's seemingly deliberate blocking of the investigation of the coming terror attack.
- which has caused ex-FBI translator Sybil Edmonds, to be placed under a serious official gag order, preventing her from going public with what she knows about the truth of 911 - which she suggests, is NOT what the public believes..


(These above FBI agents, all knew and know something about 911, which the US Government has legally prevented them from speaking about.)

"poor political judgment, bureaucratic incompetence, shadowy money making, and minutia"
caused the 'coincidence' of making the US Government ignore well over 20 general warnings and at LEAST four by various foreign Governments, of imminent strikes by terrorists, using hijacked airplanes, on the USA?
http://www.wsws.org/articles/2002/jan2002/sept-j16.shtml
"The governments of at least four countries—Germany, Egypt, Russia and Israel—gave specific warnings to the US of an impending terrorist attack in the months preceding September 11. These alerts, while fragmentary, not only combined to foretell the scale of the attack and its main target, but indicated that hijacked commercial aircraft would be the weapon of choice..."

And gee, what are the statistical odds on the 'coincidence' of a war game exercise unfolding, dealing with hijacked aircraft, unfolding AT THE SAME TIME as the 'unexpected' 911 occurred. That's stretching the very concept of 'coincidence' to its logical breaking point.

Like saying finding someone in your house at 2am, standing over your bed
with a knife.. coincidentally stumbled into your garden, coincidentally leaned
against the front door which coincidentally opened, they coincidentally walked on,
looking for a phone, coincidentally their hand happened on a knife
and they coincidentally found themselves in your bedroom.
All coincidentally.


See how meaningless 'coincidence' becomes - when it all joins together to form an
end result that is clearly beneficial to the person or issue who stands to benefit?

http://www.oilempire.us/wargames.html
"There has been virtually no media coverage of the issues of the 9/11 war games, the "amazing coincidence" of a "plane into building" exercise being conducted that morning, or the alleged role of Vice President Richard Cheney in overseeing the war games that morning."

http://www.wanttoknow.info/050317wargames911
".. The question was, we had four wargames going on on September 11th, and the question that I tried to pose before the Secretary had to go to lunch was whether or not the activities of the four wargames going on on September 11th actually impaired our ability to respond to the attacks..."
http://www.wanttoknow.info/050317wargames911

I think you're a 'coincidence theorist' - and I think you should learn a little
about the way Governments, intelligence services and defense contractors
operate, rather than be basing your absurdly conspiratorial and simplistic
parroting of 'what the TV has told you' - and thinking that the world operates
in such a simplistic way.
 
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The BBC's response:

The 9/11 conspiracy theories are pretty well known by now. The BBC addressed them earlier this month with a documentary, The Conspiracy Files, shown within the UK.

Until now, I don't think we've been accused of being part of the conspiracy. But now some websites are using news footage from BBC World on September 11th 2001 to suggest we were actively participating in some sort of attempt to manipulate the audience. As a result, we're now getting lots of emails asking us to clarify our position. So here goes:
Part of the conspiracy?
 
responses to the BBC's attempts at explanation..

"How deservedly ironic that the BBC gets exposed for what it really is (a propaganda bureau that attempts to indoctrinate Britain and the world with a false reality) so soon after the airing of the appalling hit piece (9/11 conspiracy files) last Sunday night. Please show some respect for the BBC and the license fee paying public by answering a simple question. How did the BBC know that Building 7 was going to collapse 20 minutes before it actually did when prior to 9/11 no steel-structured building had ever collapsed due to fire?"

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"1. BBC reports for 20 solid minutes that WTC7 has collapsed when even in the live shot it stands as sturdy as the day it was built.

2. The idea that WTC7 would collapse spontaneously due to minor fires and minimal damage to the north face is laughable and an insult to intelligence. But it did, approximately 5 minutes AFTER BBC's report....or at least 5 minutes after Jane Standley's live shot was disconnected.

3. BBC loses all of it's 9/11 footage so this cannot be reviewed or explained. My nephew still has all his VHS tapes from that day. He recorded almost every news station for 24 hours straight. He's 19 now. He was 13 when it happened. So, a 13 year old can be more responsible with his VHS tapes than one of the largest news organizations?

4. The archive footage is mysteriously pulled off of YouTube and Google video repeatedly and without provocation or explanation.

5. BBC's response is, 'there is no conspiracy. it was a mistake.'

Grant us logical thinkers at least one thing. This is highly suspicious. The BBC needs to reveal what source they drew the conclusion that WTC7 had collapsed.

Oh, and the ez-out phrases like 'it appears' and 'we're receiving reports that..' were not used throughout this footage.

Especially when the anchor starts talking about the (lack of) body count since there was so much time to evacuate since the collapse of WTC 1-2.

The BBC needs to reveal what source they drew the conclusion that WTC7 had collapsed. I do not necessarily think the BBC is a witting participant in some 9/11 conspiracy, but it's definitely looking like you were a pawn. Revealing who/where the BBC received the information that WTC7 had collapsed would be a good start in clearing your name."

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"Let's say for a second that you messed up and reported a building going down that didn't - why the exact one that DID? What are the odds? Why not by mistake report a building going down that DIDN'T actually go down?

You lose footage of one of the most important days in modern history... ;)
(Good job! That way no one can "prove" anything that day...)

Out of all the surrounding buildings that suffered massive damage - WTC 3,4,5,6 - and assorted others that suffered minor damage (amoung them, WTC 7 - Salomon Brothers Building), BBC - by merely a mistake and in confusion - picked exactly the right one that was going to fall -.... ;)
(Good job! Hey, BBC is incompetent - they lose tapes AND they claim buildings fall that haven't - but what LUCK! They hit the lottery! What a 'lucky guess', huh?)

BBC should go to Vegas, with those odds - you'd be rich.

BBC is not part of the conspiracy - but you are just a bunch of pathetic dupes.

You capture the biggest smoking gun in history ... and your response is ..... to call yourselves incompetent and go play 'blind/deaf/dumb monkey' on your public.

Good job, Guys!!


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"If we reported the building had collapsed before it had done so, it would have been an error - no more than that."

Uh, it WASN'T an error... That's the point. You keep harping on about what a chaotic day it was. Then why didn't the anchor say something like, "We're getting some unconfirmed reports of some other building apparently collapsing... We'll have to check up on this... etc." No, he had (23 minutes before hand) the name of the building, the correct # of floors in the building (47), the explanation of the collapse (weakened by other collapses), and he was reporting that the building was apparently empty. You even had graphics made up for the scrolling info at the bottom of the screen. That is some pretty precise reporting for a day of chaos when everyone was "...trying to make sense of what they were seeing... and what was being told by colleagues in London who were monitoring feeds and wires services."

And there lies the key (perhaps). No doubt the info was just being fed to the anchor and reporter off the wires as the news would cross... So, which agency fed that bit about WTC7 collapsing? AP? Reuters? VOA? We'll probably never know, but you got the information from some source more than 23 minutes before it happened (had to be longer than 23 minutes, because there must have been some delay from the time the story came over the wires and the time the anchor actually got the news out on the air).

Do I think the BBC is "...part of a conspiracy"? No... but you were played perfectly by some entity, IMO.

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With respect, the response to this issue is unacceptable. At the very least you are minimizing your error and trivializing the life’s lost or the potential of life’s that could have been saved.

In the most important final 7 minutes and 15 seconds of the said segment the words "apparently", "it's reported" or "we're hearing" ARE NOT USED in context of building 7.

The words used are those have definite and past tense.

"Now more on the latest building collapse in New York,...the Solomon Brothers Building collapse... and indeed it has"

"What can you tell us about the Salomon Building and it's collapse?"

"When it collapsed"

Ticker –“The 47 storey Salomon Brothers building close to the World Trade Centre has also collapsed.”

Who is responsible for the newsroom in desk and floor prompters being used by the news presenter?
Who is responsible for the news report on the bottom screen news ticker?
Who is responsible as the newsroom floor source for giving these people information?
What is the complete list of editors and journalists responsible for this program on said day?

The words in your statement #4 of footage being lost may very well redefine irresponsible. The BBC Media Management policy clearly states TWO broadcast standard copies be retained one on a separate site as a master.

As follows.

Ref No.
Policy Area / Policy Statement
01
Components to be Retained
01-01

The following components to be retained:-

Two broadcast standard copies of all transmitted/published TV, Radio and BBCi output – one to be stored on a separate site as a master

One browse-quality version for research purposes, to protect the broadcast material

http://www.bbc.co.uk/foi/docs/histo...cies/media_management_policy_overview.htm#top
 
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(I remain unconvinced this is the video I originally saw)

Conspiracy is attractive. It's intriguing. People enjoy a good mystery. That doesn't make it truth. Those pentagon videos and "reconstructions" are "very fun" to watch. Too bad they were "enough" and after seeing them you didn't look further (or at least beyond the narrow vision of a couple of websites with clear agendas):
The pentagon is one of the most secure buildings in the world. Covered in cameras. Including surrounding buildings. All these tapes were confiscated, never to see the light. Why have they never been released (instead we get the car park stop motion version?)
 
agreed, here's Michael Moore, via youtube, asking the exact same
thing
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iF8-8Kaa8jo

Michael Moore is a tard and you can tell him I said that. We don't see each other too often since he invented some fairy tale called "Fahrenheit 911..." Even won a Palm D'or for it, but what the hay, nobody like the French anyhow. Anways, just my two cents worth..

My boss was working at the Pentagon on 9/11. I asked him what he thought of the whole cruise-missile-hitting-the-Pentagon thing and he siad it was baloney. Asked him why and he talked to people on the day of who saw the plane hit the building. Obviously you all can't be expected to believe this third-hand information but that takes care of the Pentagon theory for me. I know some people claim that no one actually saw the plane hit but I don't think they were looking hard enough.

P.S. I hate to introduce some common sense into this discussion...but WHY would the destruction of WTC 7 need to be faked?
 
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then riddle me this:

1) why, in the arguably most fortified and video-covered building in the world, is the Government not releasing the video's of the event?

2)why, in the immediate photographs taken, before the section collapsed, is there only a tiny hole visible, around 16 - 20 feet in diameter.

(No damage, or broken windows to either side of the hole - which is where the wings and engines would have smashed into it..)

How does a commercial airliner, 'fold' itself and its wings in on itself, and
disappear inside a smaller hole than the diameter size of its fuselage?

Where are the two impact points for the engines on the wings, which would
have had to slam into the building? Many tons of solid engines, which seemed
to not make any dents on any walls, and which also 'folded' up and disappeared inside the itty bitty hole..

That's not how physics and crashing airplanes work.. consider the damage
caused on the WTC towers, by the wings - how come at the Pentagon,
the wings and engine blocks just 'disappeared'?

While you're at it - given that it was reported that the airplane 'skidded along the lawn'
before smashing into the Pentagon - show me ONE photograph, just ONE - that displays
any kind of scraping, or damage to the perfect green lawn in front of the Pentagon..
 
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