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Lunomoney

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Luno's buy prices are inflated for profit, my best opinion.

Remember that there's no set price, it'll differ per exchange.
Markets are based on supply and demand, which in turn will then set the price. If there's higher demand in SA and our exchange specifically, the ZAR price may creep up.

It's the same for other international exchanges too - there's no standard price :)
Here's an example below:

https://www.gdax.com/
https://www.bitfinex.com/

Another factor that plays into this is exchange controls per country. If someone were able to easily arbitrage between USD and ZAR, chances are our price would fall closer in line with the average USD price for those exchanges.

Hope this makes sense :)

It's also worth taking a look at a site that allows you to view per exchange, I've linked in my two favourite below.

https://bitcoinity.org/markets
https://bitcoinwisdom.com/
 

Lunomoney

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When you use instant buy, Luno will get you the best offers from the asks, and then on top of that they charge you 1% fees. You can be unlucky if there are no reasonable ask prices, but that looks like a huge spread. I suspect that the 19500 value was not updated on your app. Best not to use instant buy, rather trade, so you get your exact price and you also don't pay any fees.

In the background it gets fairly complex.
The Instant Buy/ Sell looks at the available liquidity and what's available at the value you're requesting it. The page then generates a quote for 60 seconds. If the order is executed, the order is still placed on the exchange, but in the background.

Any BTC order is made on the exchange, it's just easier and quicker to do it via Instant Buy and Sell.

Hope that makes sense :)
 

balky

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It's the same for other international exchanges too - there's no standard price :)
Here's an example below:
https://www.gdax.com/
https://www.bitfinex.com/
Bitfinex is not a good example. For the past few weeks they have had problems with American banks. The banks are not allowing USD fron Bitfinex into the USA, so the only way users of Bitfinnex can withdraw funds is by selling bitcoin and withdrawing the bitcoin. This causes the price on that exchange to shoot up. Other exchanges are having similar problems.
 

Lunomoney

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Bitfinex is not a good example. For the past few weeks they have had problems with American banks. The banks are not allowing USD fron Bitfinex into the USA, so the only way users of Bitfinnex can withdraw funds is by selling bitcoin and withdrawing the bitcoin. This causes the price on that exchange to shoot up. Other exchanges are having similar problems.

Fair enough, but the post was meant to show that there are discrepancies between exchanges and regions.
It's usually pretty standard, when one exchange gets too high the arbitrage traders jump in which in turn normalises the price.
 

balky

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Fair enough, but the post was meant to show that there are discrepancies between exchanges and regions.
It's usually pretty standard, when one exchange gets too high the arbitrage traders jump in which in turn normalises the price.

Yes normaly the exchanges are within 1 or 2 % of each other, but because of the banks causing problems arbitrage doesn't work, hence the huge differences.
 

jacosmit

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Thank you for the explanation @lunomoney and it's nice to see you here. Any predictions where the climb will stop for those of us waiting/gambling to sell?
 

Lunomoney

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Thank you for the explanation @lunomoney and it's nice to see you here. Any predictions where the climb will stop for those of us waiting/gambling to sell?

Haha, I wish I knew!
It'll end when it gets to the moon, I guess :p

Seriously though, the more demand there is higher the price will go. Seen a few good YouTube channels with technical analysis which is interesting, not sure I'd take it as solid advice though.
 
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