The Brexit Thread

[Dave]

Would they not need to agree on that too? UK parliament I mean. I recall it being an option on a vote and was also shot down.

No, revocation of article 50 is a unilateral decision by the UK (already decided by an ECJ decision),

 

[Dave]

They played a clip from some EU person.

I'm sure you can find it. Was driving so wasn't really concentrating.

I’ve actually had a look, there’s no reference to it in any of the usual press places with live rolling coverage like Sky or the Guardian (that’s where I saw the HoL votes).

 

[Dave]

Haha Brexit peers in the House of Lords are filibustering the constitutional vandalism of the Cooper Bill.

Pro-EU Lords are fuming.

Just FYI: Most Bills take MONTHS to pass. How is anyone taking their job seriously, especially the Lords who are supposed to be scrutinising legislation, when it simply gets rammed through?

Filibustering might slow assent to only being granted on Monday, so I doubt there’s too much fuming going on.



(Ridley closure motion was to prevent the filibustering from continuing).

 

[Pitbull]

I’ve actually had a look, there’s no reference to it in any of the usual press places with live rolling coverage like Sky or the Guardian (that’s where I saw the HoL votes).

Was on Jacaranda during the news. Should have podcast of it on their website

 

[ToxicBunny]

Was on Jacaranda during the news. Should have podcast of it on their website

Jacaranda? As in the sa radio station?

 

[Dave]

Was on Jacaranda during the news. Should have podcast of it on their website

The closest to what you’ve said would be in the Varadkar/Merkel press conference this afternoon, but he didn’t quite say what you heard.

Varadkar says UK must offer ‘credible and realistic way forward’ to justify further article 50 extension

Leo Varakdar and Angela Merkel are holding their press conference in Dublin now.

He says at the last EU summit EU leaders agreed to give the UK extra time.
Matters are still playing out in London, he says. He says the EU must be patient. But any proposal from the UK for another extension must involve “a credible and realistic way forward”.

From the live updates on https://www.theguardian.com/politic...hould-get-vote-on-second-referendum-live-news

 

[Pitbull]

Jacaranda? As in the sa radio station?

Yea, which radio station would I listen to in SA? There was a clip on there with some EU person stating there will be NO more extension past 12/04/2019, UNLESS May's deal is accepted.

 

[ToxicBunny]

Yea, which radio station would I listen to in SA? There was a clip on there with some EU person stating there will be NO more extension past 12/04/2019, UNLESS May's deal is accepted.

Just surprised Jacaranda would be publishing news like that... It's not something that it's general audience would give a toss about.

 

[Pitbull]

Just surprised Jacaranda would be publishing news like that... It's not something that it's general audience would give a toss about.

Which is why it caught my ear. Someone else would also have listened to it for sure. Was the 17:00 news

 

[Dave]

Which is why it caught my ear. Someone else would also have listened to it for sure. Was the 17:00 news

Well, there’s still nothing in the UK news, and there’s just been a tweet relating to a decision being made relating to the letter that will be sent to the EU next week.



Rumours that Downing Street have possibly changed their mind relating to another referendum as well.

 

[Dave]

@Chris_the_Brit getting all frothy and excited seems to have been for nothing. The Cooper Bill is likely to be law on Monday.

 

[Pitbull]

Well, there’s still nothing in the UK news, and there’s just been a tweet relating to a decision being made relating to the letter that will be sent to the EU next week.

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Rumours that Downing Street have possibly changed their mind relating to another referendum as well.

The person talking was talking from an EU point. Nothing the UK did or will do has relevence to the statement made. But I too wil wait to hear it again and get the person's name...

 

[Dave]

The person talking was talking from an EU point. Nothing the UK did or will do has relevence to the statement made. But I too wil wait to hear it again and het the person's name...

My point was it is quite likely that the UK news agencies would find something like that interesting enough to report if it happened...

 

[Pitbull]

My point was it is quite likely that the UK news agencies would find something like that interesting enough to report if it happened...

In agree with you. It annoys the fark out of me that I too can't find it and it was on the news. Pissing me off actually...

 

[OrbitalDawn]

I think the EU's point is that you have to actually show what you're going to do with the extension. If you just kick the can down the road and nothing changes, what's the point?

 

[Dave]

Looks like another May U-turn could be coming.

Theresa May is expected to write to Jeremy Corbyn to set out the government’s offer on Brexit with negotiations due to resume in Downing Street on Friday.

With just five days to go before the prime minister must travel to Brussels to request a further Brexit delay from EU leaders, little progress appears to have been made on finding a compromise deal both Labour and the Conservatives can back.

But after the government delegation reported back to May on Thursday, officials began drafting a letter setting out a way forward.

One government source suggested that, in accordance with Labour’s demands, it would include the proposal that a confirmatory referendum on any Brexit deal be offered to MPs as an option in any vote next week.

https://www.theguardian.com/politic...to-make-written-brexit-offer-to-jeremy-corbyn

 

[OrbitalDawn]

Brilliant thread here explaining why the people who claim voting for Brexit in the referendum = hard Brexit (only) are wrong. Copious evidence cited, including views from all the top Leave proponents, the government, Prime Minister, Parliament, etc.

https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1113547733300842497.html

 

[Vox Populi Vox Dei]

"Confirmatory referendum" ...is that the new weasel term instead of 2nd referendum? By the way a 2nd referendum has been rejected twice and there are a significant number of Labour MPs who will vote against it, easily outnumbering the Remoaner zealots on the Conservative benches.

 

[Hamish McPanji]

Brexit - UK loses £6.6 billion a quarter since referendum, S&P says



(Reuters) - The United Kingdom has lost £6.6 billion in economic activity every quarter since it voted to leave the European Union, according to S&P Global Ratings, the latest company to estimate the damage from Brexit.

In a report published on Thursday, the ratings agency's senior economist, Boris Glass, said the world's fifth-biggest economy would have been about 3 percent larger by the end of 2018 if the country had not voted in a June 2016 referendum to leave the EU.

Quarterly growth rates would have averaged about 0.7 percent, rather than 0.43 percent, he said.

https://uk.reuters.com/article/uk-b...uarter-since-referendum-sp-says-idUKKCN1RG0QW

Dunno who these clowns are , but their economic educational Standards must be Poor. They got nothing on our Narrowband, who says it's all lies.... probably

 

[Dave]

"Confirmatory referendum" ...is that the new weasel term instead of 2nd referendum? By the way a 2nd referendum has been rejected twice and there are a significant number of Labour MPs who will vote against it, easily outnumbering the Remoaner zealots on the Conservative benches.

There are only 3 definite Labour Brexiteers (Hoey, Skinner and one more I can’t remember), the Labour manifesto adopted at their last conference includes support for another referendum so I would presume they might be whipped to support it.

Remember, Corbyn’s main personal support base are student types and Momentum, they are quite solidly remain supporting, he is going to have to get off the fence soon.