Pitbull
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Shame, they can go cry a river...
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Shame, they can go cry a river...
OrbitalDawn
Ulysses Everett McGill
A great success for brexit, 2 years before it actually happens even!
Now those positions will have to be filled by UK citizens instead
You know they can already employ UK citizens, right?
NarrowBandFtw
Honorary Master
You know the UK has an unemployment problem right? By forcing UK companies to look a little harder within the UK to fill positions they are bound to reduce their unemployment figures, previously it would have been easier to just look throughout the EU to fill roles seeing as they already had the right to work in the UK.
You know they can already employ UK citizens, right?
Simply put: currently they can of course employ UK citizens, but in the near future they will be encouraged to do much more of it than before
OrbitalDawn
Ulysses Everett McGill
Do they? And my point still stands. They can already employ UK citizens (weird that this point has to be made at all), so the labour shortage is not because of an inability to find workers within the UK. They aren't there.
NarrowBandFtw
Honorary Master
It's not rocket science, when you can find cheaper labour somewhere else, you will give it preferential treatment in order to save costs. The labour shortage mentioned in your link is temporary, companies have become accustomed to looking for cheap labour in the EU, they didn't need to worry that much about finding labour in the UK.
Now their cheap / easy option is about to vanish and they have to adjust still, it will take time for them to figure out how to fill roles with only UK (or mostly UK) labour. There is certainly labour to spare in the UK else there would not be unemployment of around 5% (and an official 5% typically means the reality is 25%)
Pitbull
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You know they can already employ UK citizens, right?
Yes and?
You obviously missed more than 1/2 my post. /facepalm
Pitbull
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Amazing how little you know about the UK and the culture yet you keep on posting in the Brexit thread...
About 5 MILLION people in the UK claim benefits, The benefits being so good they don't have to work so by choice they don't. Now, with no more cheap labour from Europe, employers will have to pay more to employ them. Cut the benefits since there is employment for them and voilà...
Hamish McPanji
Honorary Master
Forget that, companies have started announcing increases of their pricing to reflect the weak currency. Whatever loss/reduction of profit they were able to absorb is essentially depleted.
Vox Populi Vox Dei
High Tory
Another myth busted. Remoaners after the referendum said many people regretted their vote for Brexit....
Actual polling data suggests otherwise:
Actual polling data suggests otherwise:
why would they go back to the continent ?
In all likelihood there will be an agreement for existing EU working to stay in the UK and end existing UK workers working in the EU to stay in the EU.
As already pointed out, prices are already going up because of the exchange rate.
Also, the UK has not yet left the EU and there is still free movement and free movement will remain in place for 2 years from when Article 50 is triggered(possibly end of March). So new EU workers will only start requiring visas from April 2019 at the earliest. Existing EU workers will probably never need to apply for a visa. They will probably be given leave to remain on the same basis as most non EU workers, ie. being in the country legally for 5 years.
Dave
Honorary Master
The same could be said about you.
The great majority of those are claiming in work benefits, the latest figure for unemployment benefit is 809,000.
Pitbull
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Was talking about benefit as a whole, not specifically unemployment benefit. Those on other benefits would also benefit as they would be getting higher wages and moving out of the system. Fact still remains you have by your account 809k people who are unemployed, the vast majority do so by choice. Either way, they will soon be able to employ 809k more people by this "void" being created now...
I still don't see anything else but a win/win. Maybe you seeing something else?
Dave
Honorary Master
So how are these higher wages paid for? How about child care costs? Do you intend bringing in legislation to control who has children? Are you also going to legislate price reductions and fixing for rents?
Out of interest, do you know what the single greatest grouping of benefit payments is in the UK?
As I said, I don't think you quite understand what the word benefits actually encompasses in the UK.
Hamish McPanji
Honorary Master
Can you actually post a source? Or did you make that graph by yourself?
Boom! This!
Pitbull
Verboten
Guess I'm the only one following this thread...
Right, so cheap labour will not be available to the UK economy no more due to Brexit. Meaning higher wages, less people dependent on welfare and grants. But o wait, Unemployed only 809K...
Who's going to pay the single parents subsidy for schooling? /cry
Single biggest spending is on State pension...
Then housing benefit again, couple this with the unemployed
I can run down a long list even the 75+ TV license benefit. But I know nothing, having stayed in the UK on and off for about 6 years means nothing. The lefties here know more.
FACT is that a massive problem economically for the UK is it having massive amounts of people getting government housing, grants that make it worth their while not to work. Kids go to Government schools in Government estates where o wait, school fees are also covered aka "free schools" But who's going to pay for child care? Geesus guys, you are drowning in your own little liberal bullshyte you even believe yourselves.
The UK has more than enough man power to run a very viable economy. But it doesn't fit with the Lefty agenda so lets just spew bullshyte all over. The more people are employed, the more income is generated and who would have thought, more funds to spend on social grants like state pension and less on Unemployment and free schools.
The current UK is EXACTLY what a leftist country becomes. Luckily the people of the UK who actually live this every day has made their choice and they are the ones working the change. So just keep on crying using bullshyte excuses
Vox Populi Vox Dei
High Tory
Dave
Honorary Master
Guess I'm the only one following this thread...
Right, so cheap labour will not be available to the UK economy no more due to Brexit. Meaning higher wages, less people dependent on welfare and grants. But o wait, Unemployed only 809K...
Who's going to pay the single parents subsidy for schooling? /cry
Single biggest spending is on State pension...
Then housing benefit again, couple this with the unemployed
I can run down a long list even the 75+ TV license benefit. But I know nothing, having stayed in the UK on and off for about 6 years means nothing. The lefties here know more.
FACT is that a massive problem economically for the UK is it having massive amounts of people getting government housing, grants that make it worth their while not to work. Kids go to Government schools in Government estates where o wait, school fees are also covered aka "free schools" But who's going to pay for child care? Geesus guys, you are drowning in your own little liberal bullshyte you even believe yourselves.
The UK has more than enough man power to run a very viable economy. But it doesn't fit with the Lefty agenda so lets just spew bullshyte all over. The more people are employed, the more income is generated and who would have thought, more funds to spend on social grants like state pension and less on Unemployment and free schools.
The current UK is EXACTLY what a leftist country becomes. Luckily the people of the UK who actually live this every day has made their choice and they are the ones working the change. So just keep on crying using bullshyte excuses
I just typed a full point by point reply when the page decided to reload. Suffice to say, you're talking a load of crap.
I'll do a full reply to your post a bit later.
Pitbull
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Dave123 comes across as rather centre of the political spectrum, not "leftie". He's not Jeremy Corbyn lol.
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