The Brexit Thread

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DA-LION-619 said:
I wouldn't question Havoc on his understanding of the finance world.

Also moving from the UK to Germany or Brussels isn't the same as moving to India.
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Obviously it's not the same but if banks were able to put the bulk of their staff in cheap countries, they would do it.

The regulatory in banking/insurance is insanely complex and doesn't really allow it.

It only works with tax heavens/asset management (that I forgot to mention) and advisory actually.
 
f2wohf said:
150th time I repeat it, the EU allows control of the border, it is an option. France has border control right now, Germany as well, Austria as well.

So the German economy is not a success story ? France ? Spain ? Poland ?
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Someone with an EU passport simply flashes it to show they have one and walk on. Non-EU passport holders must get passport stamped, and have a visa if so required.
 
Venomous said:
Someone with an EU passport simply flashes it to show they have one and walk on. Non-EU passport holders must get passport stamped, and have a visa if so required.
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The three times within the last year I've been back to France and Spain, they actually scan the passport.

Before they were just looking at it.
 
Interesting article:

http://econ.st/2nE2dnM

The timetable is tighter even than it looks. The sides may spend weeks arguing over process. The EU wants to fix the terms of the Article 50 divorce, covering such matters as the rights of citizens resident in other countries and Britain’s multi-billion-euro exit bill, before starting work on a future trade deal; Mrs May wants to negotiate on everything at once. Nothing much will be agreed on before the German election in September. At the end of it all, ratifying the deal will take six months. That leaves little more than a year for the talks themselves.

Mrs May needs not merely to soften her tone, as she has started to do this week, but to lower expectations. Instead of threatening to undercut her European partners by building an unregulated Singapore-on-Thames (something that, despite its appeal to free-traders, would horrify most Brexit voters), or hinting that Britain might co-operate less fully on security, or claiming that the EU needs Britain more than the other way round, she should accept that in these negotiations she holds the weaker hand. She should hence be more flexible over payments into the EU budget, a subject her letter skates over.
 
f2wohf said:
Interesting article:

http://econ.st/2nE2dnM

The timetable is tighter even than it looks. The sides may spend weeks arguing over process. The EU wants to fix the terms of the Article 50 divorce, covering such matters as the rights of citizens resident in other countries and Britain’s multi-billion-euro exit bill, before starting work on a future trade deal; Mrs May wants to negotiate on everything at once. Nothing much will be agreed on before the German election in September. At the end of it all, ratifying the deal will take six months. That leaves little more than a year for the talks themselves.

Mrs May needs not merely to soften her tone, as she has started to do this week, but to lower expectations. Instead of threatening to undercut her European partners by building an unregulated Singapore-on-Thames (something that, despite its appeal to free-traders, would horrify most Brexit voters), or hinting that Britain might co-operate less fully on security, or claiming that the EU needs Britain more than the other way round, she should accept that in these negotiations she holds the weaker hand. She should hence be more flexible over payments into the EU budget, a subject her letter skates over.
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Oh but Britain won its sovereignty back ...
 
Brexit: a solution in search of a problem - Until the referendum, Britons were unbothered by European matters

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Concern about Europe is certainly elevated—indeed, in March it was at the highest level ever recorded by the monthly Economist/Ipsos-MORI survey of British public opinion, which first asked the question in 1974. But look back to before Mr Cameron called the referendum and it is a different story. For most of the decade up to his announcement, the percentage of people citing Europe as one of the main issues facing the country was in the single digits.
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Pitbull said:
/yawn
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Agreed. Prior to the referendum being called everyone was just oblivious to the EUSSR system that many had been born into. Frog, boiling water, etc. It's obvious that a referendum, for possibly the most important decision of a generation, would cause a spike in interest. In fact, it could even indicate that people weren't complete morons as many Remoaners would love to believe and actually made an informed decision.
 
The Voice said:
Agreed. Prior to the referendum being called everyone was just oblivious to the EUSSR system that many had been born into. Frog, boiling water, etc. It's obvious that a referendum, for possibly the most important decision of a generation, would cause a spike in interest. In fact, it could even indicate that people weren't complete morons as many Remoaners would love to believe and actually made an informed decision.
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Are you serious? It's such a super serious problem yet magically ~90% of the country was unaware of it before the referendum? :crylaugh:
 
The Voice said:
Agreed. Prior to the referendum being called everyone was just oblivious to the EUSSR system that many had been born into. Frog, boiling water, etc. It's obvious that a referendum, for possibly the most important decision of a generation, would cause a spike in interest. In fact, it could even indicate that people weren't complete morons as many Remoaners would love to believe and actually made an informed decision.
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I find it extremely ironic (and quite funny) when immigrants are such passionate advocates for Brexit.
 
Dave said:
I find it extremely ironic (and quite funny) when immigrants are such passionate advocates for Brexit.
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My father in law, for example. Took him more than 20 years to get citizenship. Despite living in the country for that period, and his entire family (wife and kids) being Brits.

When i asked him, he went on about the NHS (lol) and the Turks
 
The Voice said:
Agreed. Prior to the referendum being called everyone was just oblivious to the EUSSR system that many had been born into. Frog, boiling water, etc. It's obvious that a referendum, for possibly the most important decision of a generation, would cause a spike in interest. In fact, it could even indicate that people weren't complete morons as many Remoaners would love to believe and actually made an informed decision.
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When you have to rewash the same thing because no one even cares no more... Britain seems to be happy, and I'm happy for them.
 
Dave said:
I find it extremely ironic (and quite funny) when immigrants are such passionate advocates for Brexit.
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Where's the irony? An immigrant has taken his/her future into his/her own hands, which is exactly what the UK is doing.

Only dodgy faux-refugees will be worried that they can't access Britain as easily as before perhaps.
 
NarrowBandFtw said:
Where's the irony? An immigrant has taken his/her future into his/her own hands, which is exactly what the UK is doing.
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Except many Brit Brexiteers are against immigrants, it's like turkeys voting for Christmas. They'd like to see all immigration made more difficult including for those on visas...

Only dodgy faux-refugees will be worried that they can't access Britain as easily as before perhaps.
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Nope, many brexit supporters would like to see all immigration either curtailed or made much more difficult.

Seeing an immigrant on a visa using all the extreme brexit terms is just ironic in that if the right wing of the Brexit groups had their way they would make it more difficult (and more expensive) to renew their visa and make it much more difficult to get citizenship.
 
Dave said:
Except many Brit Brexiteers are against immigrants, it's like turkeys voting for Christmas. They'd like to see all immigration made more difficult including for those on visas...



Nope, many brexit supporters would like to see all immigration either curtailed or made much more difficult.

Seeing an immigrant on a visa using all the extreme brexit terms is just ironic in that if the right wing of the Brexit groups had their way they would make it more difficult (and more expensive) to renew their visa and make it much more difficult to get citizenship.
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only way that would make sense is if they feel they would qualify anyway and don't want "scum immigrants" to join them there...
 
Dave said:
Except many Brit Brexiteers are against immigrants, it's like turkeys voting for Christmas. They'd like to see all immigration made more difficult including for those on visas...
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The rational people know the odds of that happening are virtually zero though, I really don't see any irony in a well qualified and integrated immigrant voting for Brexit, I doubt they'll have any issues, and they know it. They might have less competition though ...
 
Foreign states may have interfered in Brexit vote, report says

Foreign governments such as Russia and China may have been involved in the collapse of a voter registration website in the run-up to the EU referendum, a committee of MPs has claimed.

A report by the Commons public administration and constitutional affairs committee (PACAC) said MPs were deeply concerned about the allegations of foreign interference in last year’s Brexit vote.

The committee does not identify who may have been responsible, but has noted that both Russia and China use an approach to cyber-attacks based on an understanding of mass psychology and of how to exploit individuals.
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Probably those dastardly Belgians.
 
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