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f2wohf said:
So it becomes a logistical nightmare to sort it in a month, instead of planning to do so ahead.

You then don't have enough compliant pallets in SA to ship back to Europe, your toilet papers shipment from SA gets delayed while waiting for the replacement pallets.

My point.
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I agree, again blame lies at the feet of the companies. Not Brexit or Government
 
Pitbull said:
They use them. Let me picture it for you: I make toilet paper and import paper from Sappi in SA. These rolles gets shipped to my plant in the UK on approved palets.
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You think the bulk paper rolls are transported on pallets? You do realise they would squash a pallet flat, they weigh in at multiple tons per roll.

They look like this
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Pitbull said:
I agree, again blame lies at the feet of the companies. Not Brexit or Government
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The Deal/No Deal/Art50 extension has nothing to do?

Maybe if a tad of certainty was given ahead (as should be expected from a pro business government), they would have been able to prepare.
 
PM sets out plan to give MPs vote on no-deal Brexit or Article 50 extension

The PM tells MPs: "I know members across the House are genuinely worried time is running out."

She adds many MPs are also worried about the effect of "current uncertainty on business".

She sets out three measures to address this.

The PM says she will hold a second meaningful vote on a Brexit deal by 12 March.

If this is rejected, she will then allow MPs a vote on 13 March on whether they back a no-deal Brexit.

If MPs don't support a no-deal Brexit, the PM will then give the House of Commons a vote on 14 March on a "short, limited extension" to Article 50.

https://news.sky.com/story/live-theresa-may-to-address-mps-amid-calls-for-brexit-delay-11648718
 
I hate to break this to you Chris, but Theresa actually doesn't really have a say in that...
 
Dave said:
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So, translated into the truth:

anti-brexit PM aims to stay in the EU by following a three step plan
1: vote on a deal that is guaranteed to fail, do it close enough to brexit date to cause panic, expect it to fail
2: vote on hard brexit after giving the maximum available time to project fear, expect it to fail too
3: having successfully shirked responsibility for the enormous ineptitude shown these past two years, vote to delay brexit, first "limited in time", then forever
 
NarrowBandFtw said:
So, translated into the truth:

anti-brexit PM aims to stay in the EU by following a three step plan
1: vote on a deal that is guaranteed to fail, do it close enough to brexit date to cause panic, expect it to fail
2: vote on hard brexit after giving the maximum available time to project fear, expect it to fail too
3: having successfully shirked responsibility for the enormous ineptitude shown these past two years, vote to delay brexit, first "limited in time", then forever
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That’s one interpretation, I would only argue the point that May is an anti-Brexit PM, I don’t think she knows what she is.
 
NarrowBandFtw said:
So, translated into the truth:

anti-brexit PM aims to stay in the EU by following a three step plan
1: vote on a deal that is guaranteed to fail, do it close enough to brexit date to cause panic, expect it to fail
2: vote on hard brexit after giving the maximum available time to project fear, expect it to fail too
3: having successfully shirked responsibility for the enormous ineptitude shown these past two years, vote to delay brexit, first "limited in time", then forever
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Translated into the truth (for the future):

1. Don't put something to the vote if you don't have a plan.
2. Refer to rule 1
 
ToxicBunny said:
I hate to break this to you Chris, but Theresa actually doesn't really have a say in that...
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If she actually brought back a deal worth voting for, she could have. But from what I understand, she has a rather peculiar leadership style where her inner-circle is her husband & Olly Robbins (her EU advisor) and no-one seems to know what she is thinking or whether she is thinking at all. She famously has "no friends in politics".
 
f2wohf said:
Translated into the truth (for the future):
1. Don't put something to the vote if you don't have a plan.
2. Refer to rule 1
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Referring to the brexit referendum? If so then, horseshyte.

That's how referendums and especially elections always go, the masses voting on a desired outcome without any plan in place.
 
ToxicBunny said:
Theresa doesn't know what the fsck she wants...
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As I've said in this thread multiple times, and still maintain, there isn't a single Torie or Labour MP that is truly pro-brexit. Some just make the right noises that they believe voters want to hear, but they all want to maintain the status quo and certainly not go through with brexit.

May is no different, so I reckon she knows what she wants.
 
NarrowBandFtw said:
Referring to the brexit referendum? If so then, horseshyte.

That's how referendums and especially elections always go, the masses voting on a desired outcome without any plan in place.
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:ROFL:

So there wasn't a plan to put CODESA in place in SA?

Do you support continuation of the reform process which the State President began on 2 February 1990 and which is aimed at a new Constitution through negotiation?
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Should the United Kingdom remain a member of the European Union or leave the European Union?
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Leaving it an open question without a process to follow was the dumbest thing possible. I'll leave it there.
 
NarrowBandFtw said:
As I've said in this thread multiple times, and still maintain, there isn't a single Torrie or Labour MP that is truly pro-brexit. Some just make the right noises that they believe voters want to hear, but they all want to maintain the status quo and certainly not go through with brexit.

May is no different, so I reckon she knows what she wants.
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Chris_the_Brit said:
If she actually brought back a deal worth voting for, she could have. But from what I understand, she has a rather peculiar leadership style where her inner-circle is her husband & Olly Robbins (her EU advisor) and no-one seems to know what she is thinking or whether she is thinking at all. She famously has "no friends in politics".
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Has anyone had a workable plan for the backstop? The idiots like ReesMogg have promised unicorns and leprechauns but I’ve yet to see anyone come up with a genuinely workable plan that doesn’t mean the hard border between Northern Ireland and Ireland returns the day no deal (or even hard) Brexit happens.
 
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