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buka001 said:
If he doesn't then why does he have two pictures. One with Nazi Germany subducating European countries and one as Germany in the EU subducating countries?

Everyone else here acknowledged the comparison.
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Go back home. Noone likes a clever n*****r
 
buka001 said:
Emotional? Bursting out in laughter at how someone who ran out of something smart to say decides to play like a child in a sandpit, sure then I was emotional.
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This doesn't even make sense.

Pray tell, who is the child in a sandpit, and how are they a child in a sandpit? :sneaky:

Given the petty justifications for why the cartoonist was trying to make the EU to be worse than Nazi Germany, I'd have to say the petulant one here is you.
 
Gingerbeardman said:
Because EU economic policy is geared towards German interests and everyone else's interests take a back seat.
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Can you give an example of how EU economic policy is geared towards German interests above everyone else? Given that all decisions in the EU require voting unanimously, by all members, or by majority voting in some cases, how is it that Germany controls the EU? Germany occupies 13% of the entire legislature, hardly close to a majority.

I really don't get the whole anti-EU sentiment. It's done more for peace, stability, democracy and prosperity for it's members than any other organisation or group in the world. Yes, some countries, like Greece, are having a tougher time than others, but before joining the EU Greece moved from a dictatorship to a military regime, continuous fighting and political crisis, so it seems to me they are still better off for joining the EU. Countries that were enemies, at war, for centuries have been living together peacefully for over 80 years now. I can't think of anywhere better to live in the world today than in the EU, and I'm including the UK in that statement.
 
C4Cat said:
Can you give an example of how EU economic policy is geared towards German interests above everyone else? Given that all decisions in the EU require voting unanimously, by all members, or by majority voting in some cases, how is it that Germany controls the EU? Germany occupies 13% of the entire legislature, hardly close to a majority.
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Sorry, maybe you'd like to not put words in my mouth.
 
Gingerbeardman said:
Sorry, maybe you'd like to not put words in my mouth.
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What do you mean? You said:
Gingerbeardman said:
Because EU economic policy is geared towards German interests and everyone else's interests take a back seat.
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I asked:
Can you give an example of how EU economic policy is geared towards German interests above everyone else?
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I then pointed out that economic policy is unanimously voted upon.

So how is that putting words in your mouth?:rolleyes:
 
C4Cat said:
What do you mean? You said:

I asked:

I then pointed out that economic policy is unanimously voted upon.

So how is that putting words in your mouth?:rolleyes:
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Where did I say Germany controls anything?

I've already given examples. If you don't want to address them, that's not my problem.
 
Gingerbeardman said:
Where did I say Germany controls anything?

I've already given examples. If you don't want to address them, that's not my problem.
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Oh right, so EU economic policy is geared towards German interests above everyone else but not because Germany controls anything. Ok. I haven't seen your examples and I do want to address them.
 
Cray said:
That doesn't necessarily require a deal ( a trade deal that is), the UK could unilaterally decide to grant them residence if they so chose. The problem would be if the EU doesn't grant similar rights to UK citizens in Europe in which case the UK might use that as a bargaining chip to gain a similar concession from the EU.
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The sticky bit is that the EU can't do that, because it'll be up to each individual member state. As I understand it, many (if not most) have already said they'll provide a grace period for UK citizens to apply for long-term/permanent residence.
 
C4Cat said:
Can you give an example of how EU economic policy is geared towards German interests above everyone else? Given that all decisions in the EU require voting unanimously, by all members, or by majority voting in some cases, how is it that Germany controls the EU? Germany occupies 13% of the entire legislature, hardly close to a majority.

I really don't get the whole anti-EU sentiment. It's done more for peace, stability, democracy and prosperity for it's members than any other organisation or group in the world. Yes, some countries, like Greece, are having a tougher time than others, but before joining the EU Greece moved from a dictatorship to a military regime, continuous fighting and political crisis, so it seems to me they are still better off for joining the EU. Countries that were enemies, at war, for centuries have been living together peacefully for over 80 years now. I can't think of anywhere better to live in the world today than in the EU, and I'm including the UK in that statement.
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It's mostly ignorance, aided by relentless scaremongering and lies. I've posted it before, but I'll post it again because it's very illustrative.

Here's a list of absurd myths that have been peddled ad nauseam over the years about the EU.

https://blogs.ec.europa.eu/ECintheUK/euromyths-a-z-index/

The cumulative effect of this type of stuff was bound to produce ignorance on a large scale.

As it happens I have my own issues with the EU, mostly around disastrous and counter-productive austerity measures, as Piketty explains pretty well.
 
NarrowBandFtw said:
spoilt prep school child apparently confirmed then?
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Oh no, not me. My kid. I live next door to Airbus UK office, so the school caters to them.

I went to a backwards platteland school, Afrikaans and English.

Anyway, when you decide to move past childish insults and you have found something intellectual to use in a discussion, shall we move on to there?

Virtue signalling to russian propaganda is fun, but at least find a semblance of intellectual merit to enable you to defend it.
 
Well they should love Boris Johnson then, because he doesn't want to have to bother with parliament either, and the UK's voting system, which allows a party to control the country without getting the popular vote.

But I'd also expect them to hate the democratic reforms of the EU.
 
C4Cat said:
Oh right, so EU economic policy is geared towards German interests above everyone else but not because Germany controls anything. Ok. I haven't seen your examples and I do want to address them.
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OK. Very simple example:

The Deutschemark would be far stronger than the Euro, which reflects the "pool" of countries in the EU (or at least the ones that use the Euro). It's no accident that Germany has one of the biggest current account surpluses in the world, you know.

Also, since Remoaners, some who live in the UK but take delight at bad economic news (bunch of weirdos!), I thought I would post this about Germany...oops.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1159180692707782656
 
Chris_the_Brit said:
OK. Very simple example:

The Deutschemark would be far stronger than the Euro, which reflects the "pool" of countries in the EU (or at least the ones that use the Euro). It's no accident that Germany has one of the biggest current account surpluses in the world, you know.
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Germany's economic success is based on many factors other than EU economic policy being geared towards German interests above everyone else. They would be a successful economy in or out of the EU. I would like examples of how EU economic policy is geared towards German interests above everyone else, as was claimed.
 
buka001 said:
Anyway, when you decide to move past childish insults and you have found something intellectual to use in a discussion, shall we move on to there?

Virtue signalling to russian propaganda is fun, but at least find a semblance of intellectual merit to enable you to defend it.
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Dripping with irony there mr virtue signaller. You have yet to explain why your misinterpretation of a cartoon represents ignorance on the part of the cartoonist.

and Russian propaganda? we just throwing out random phrases here to see what sticks? this is the brexit thread no?
 
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