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I’m not saying there wasn’t a democratic mandate for Brexit at the time. I’m just saying if I narrowly decided to order fish at a restaurant that was known for chicken, but said it was happy to offer fish, and so far I’ve been waiting three hours, and two chefs who promised to cook the fish had quit, and the third one is promising to deliver the fish in the next five minutes whether it’s cooked or not, or indeed still alive, and all the waiting staff have spent the last few hours arguing amongst themselves about whether I wanted battered cod, grilled salmon, jellied eels or dolphin kebabs, and if large parts of the restaurant appeared to be on fire but no-one was paying attention to it because they were all arguing about fish, I would quite like, just once, to be asked if I definitely still wanted the fish.
 
actually no, if you order the fish and it takes three hours to get to you ... you f-ing LEAVE and go eat somewhere else or better yet go cook at home ... aka hard brexit
Nah, they voted to eat fish at that restaurant so come hell or high water they will eat fish at that restaurant! you know the British: we've made our decision! to change our mind in the light of more information would be undemocratic.:rolleyes:
 
What lie? Did you even watch the clip before you started ranting again?


Lol? :confused:

Edit: I see you updated your post. You are right, Johnson should never have believed that the EU would negotiate in good faith. Now we have proof that the EU tried to screw the UK over, so we know which side is to blame for the lack of a deal.
Brexit lies by Brexiters. They now claim No Deal was always on the table.

It has been shown they explicitly said it was off the table.

Remainers warned about this and were laughed off as fearmongering.
 
Yeah so funny that the Remainers were right and the leave campaigners were the ones who lied about what happens in the No Deal scenario.

The actual point was that the leave campaigners never spoke about this and it has been explicitly demonstrated several times here.

Is this the twilight zone were Brexit ideologues somehow believe the warnings by the Leave campaigners, then dismissed as Project Fear, are now being shown to be true, is somehow good for their lies?

Grade A gaslighting and a massive own goal

I just see more crying :D

The Remoaners are the ones saying there was no talk of a no deal or WTO rules. Yet, they are the ones that kept on pushing it and yet the people still voted against them knowing full well what they voted for. As much as I'm against another Referendum, I would actually love to see one just so the remoaners can be ripped a new massive arsehole :D
 
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2000 respondents from 64mil?

So a sample size of 0.00003%?

:D :D :D
 
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Brexit lies by Brexiters. They now claim No Deal was always on the table.

It has been shown they explicitly said it was off the table.

Remainers warned about this and were laughed off as fearmongering.
How exactly could No Deal ever be off the table if it is the default position when all else fails?

Anyone who believed that is not the case is simply a fool, regardless of what they were or were not told.
 
How exactly could No Deal ever be off the table if it is the default position when all else fails?

Anyone who believed that is not the case is simply a fool, regardless of what they were or were not told.

The irony is, the Remoaners (Who lost) made that abundantly clear in all their public vote gathering. Yet still lost even giving that information to the electorate :D
 
Brexit lies by Brexiters. They now claim No Deal was always on the table.

It has been shown they explicitly said it was off the table.

Remainers warned about this and were laughed off as fearmongering.

Again, where did it say on the referendum ballot that the UK has to leave with a deal? And also by a large majority MPs voted to trigger Article 50 and the legal default is a no deal. Not our problem Remoaner MPs don't understand the implication of their own votes! Not quite as intelligent as they make out to be.
 
I also see overnight that Sarah Wollaston, who was an "independent" MP (elected as a Tory) has defected to the Liberal Democrats. She occupies the safe Tory seat of Totnes.

Here are a few interesting snippets of information though:



Funny how Lib Dems want another vote, except when it concerns their own political futures (to be clear, Wollaston would be thrashed in a by-election). :ROFL: She is effectively squatting in a seat she has no right to occupy.
 
Again, where did it say on the referendum ballot that the UK has to leave with a deal? And also by a large majority MPs voted to trigger Article 50 and the legal default is a no deal. Not our problem Remoaner MPs don't understand the implication of their own votes! Not quite as intelligent as they make out to be.

Or trying their best to derail an agreement in order to try and remain in the EU. All this while knowing full well what not reaching a deal means...
 
I just see more crying :D

The Remoaners are the ones saying there was no talk of a no deal or WTO rules. Yet, they are the ones that kept on pushing it and yet the people still voted against them knowing full well what they voted for. As much as I'm against another Referendum, I would actually love to see one just so the remoaners can be ripped a new massive arsehole :D
No.

Remainers spoke about it in the sense of how it would be a worst case scenario should Brexit occur.

Leave campaigners responded by saying, no it is not on the table. Not going to happen, Remain is just fear mongering.

So that is what is meant when remain says it was not spoken about, i.e. leave explicitly said it won't happen.

You saw what Boris said.

Here is Gove.
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How exactly could No Deal ever be off the table if it is the default position when all else fails?

Anyone who believed that is not the case is simply a fool, regardless of what they were or were not told.
Exactly. Tell that to the Leave campaigners who said it was not going to happen.
 
Remainers spoke about it in the sense of how it would be a worst case scenario should Brexit occur.

So the Remoaners did paint this picture and cries because they still lost the vote even with advising the public of the reality of Brexit?

You can juggle this any which way you want. They punted it, and people still voted against remaining. It's DONE!
 
Again, where did it say on the referendum ballot that the UK has to leave with a deal? And also by a large majority MPs voted to trigger Article 50 and the legal default is a no deal. Not our problem Remoaner MPs don't understand the implication of their own votes! Not quite as intelligent as they make out to be.
Again, where on the referendum ballot did it say they would leave without a deal.

Boris said it would not happen.

Gove said it would not happen.

The only ones who warned about it were leave campaigners.

You are all just proving just how insidious and dishonest the leave campaign was and that the Remain "fearmongering" was more aligned with reality.

Thank you for confirming and agreeing with the arguments of Remainers for the past 3 years.
 
So the Remoaners did paint this picture and cries because they still lost the vote even with advising the public of the reality of Brexit?

You can juggle this any which way you want. They punted it, and people still voted against remaining. It's DONE!
Yeah it shows how easily pro-Brexiters fall for lies and propaganda.
 
Jumping in here not really having followed but we are in the process of going over there. How likely will there be a no deal ?
 
Yeah it shows how easily pro-Brexiters fall for lies and propaganda.

You seem to assume that the voters sided with a side irrespective of what was punted by either leave or remain. If that was the case Remoaners lost.

If you are saying the Remoaners voted stay because of the possibility of No-Deal, they still lost. If you are saying the Leavers voted because of listening to both sides and made an informed decision, Remain still lost.

Either way you look at it, Remain lost and will lose again. If people voted against loyalty lines Remain lost. If they voted by making an informed decision, remain lost. You can try and spin it in 300 different ways, the truth was out there between remainers and leavers. People voted for what they saw as being the best. With ALL the information at their disposal from BOTH sides.
 
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