The Brexit Thread

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Gingerbeardman said:
Sure, I can agree that this part of the referendum was irresponsible, but then we can blame that on Porky Pig's (Cameron's) hubris, since he thought remain was a sure thing.
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I think we can all agree that Cameron f***ed up royally....
 
Cray said:
Is see how idiotic your reasoning is yes, because of the terms of the South African referendum was actually far more intelligently thought out than Brexit referendum question was...
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Completely missing the point on purpose as it doesn't suit your narrative.

Referendums are there for a reason. Once off vote, then it should be adhered to, you will have losers and winners. That is what makes the need for such a vote crucial in order to see who has the majority. Remain lost. Get over it already. Trying to nit pick things because your vote lost is a futile exercise.
 
Cray said:
So you would have been happy to accept Theresa May's deal on leaving as fulfilling the terms of Brexit as stated in the referendum?
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Doesn't phase me in the least. It would have gotten the deal done. Obviously parliament didn't agree. So now we have a No-Deal.
 
Gingerbeardman said:
Sure, I can agree that this part of the referendum was irresponsible, but then we can blame that on Porky Pig's (Cameron's) hubris
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point of order, I believe he prefers to be addressed as David-pigfucker-Cameron

bet you he never thought he would be the inspiration for the very first episode of Black Mirror
 
Pitbull said:
Completely missing the point on purpose as it doesn't suit your narrative.
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Considering you haven't the faintest idea of what my "narrative" is this is a pretty silly statement...

Pitbull said:
Referendums are there for a reason. Once off vote, then it should be adhered to, you will have losers and winners. That is what makes the need for such a vote crucial in order to see who has the majority. Remain lost. Get over it already. Trying to nit pick things because your vote lost is a futile exercise.
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I didn' vote so how does it become "My vote" exactly? Yes, I think they should have stayed, but I also think that they can leave and not royally screw things up with a " no deal" . The referendum made no mention of timelines, just because you lot are tired of negotiating doesn't mean that it suddenly has to mean a "no deal".
 
Cray said:
I didn' vote so how does it become "My vote" exactly? Yes, I think they should have stayed, but I also think that they can leave and not royally screw things up with a " no deal" . The referendum made no mention of timelines, just because you lot are tired of negotiating doesn't mean that it suddenly has to mean a "no deal"
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See there is your narrative. Remainer...

As for the rest. A deal was brokered and Parliament denied/declined it. So that leaves No-Deal. Job done, next item on the agenda?...
 
Pitbull said:
See there is your narrative. Remainer...

As for the rest. A deal was brokered and Parliament denied/declined it. So that leaves No-Deal.
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Just because you want something to be true doesn't make it so, going back for a better deal doesn't violate the terms of the referendum....
 
Cray said:
Just because you want something to be true doesn't make it so, going back for a better deal doesn't violate the terms of the referendum....
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It's pretty obvious no deal will be reached given the history of this issue now. Boris has tried a better deal, it's not going to happen. So cut off the EU leech 31/10/2019 and start working on making the UK a functioning country post EU. All this crying and bickering is just delaying the inevitable. Get it done so people can start coming to terms with the separation and fix the issues that might arise.
 
Cray said:
I didn' vote so how does it become "My vote" exactly? Yes, I think they should have stayed, but I also think that they can leave and not royally screw things up with a " no deal" . The referendum made no mention of timelines, just because you lot are tired of negotiating doesn't mean that it suddenly has to mean a "no deal".
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No deal is better than what May put on the table.
 
Pitbull said:
You denying his attempts to make some sort of arrangement with the EU? Come now guys, stop being so damn dishonest ...
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I'm not denying anything, I want you to explain the details of this better deal he tried with the EU.
 
ToxicBunny said:
I'm not denying anything, I want you to explain the details of this better deal he tried with the EU.
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Boris was doing what May should have done in the first place, but since she was an appeasing remainer, she undercut the UK's bargaining position. Boris was simply trying to re-establish it.
 
Pitbull said:
You denying his attempts to make some sort of arrangement with the EU? Come now guys, stop being so damn dishonest ...
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He was just asking what arrangements Boris was after. Nobody seems to know, including the EU.

Honestly, I'm almost at the point of hoping for a no deal Brexit, the UK government is absolutely pathetic and I think perhaps the UK should just get what they want and what they deserve after all.
 
Gingerbeardman said:
Boris was doing what May should have done in the first place, but since she was an appeasing remainer, she undercut the UK's bargaining position. Boris was simply trying to re-establish it.
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What was Boris using to try re-establish this supposed bargaining position?
 
Pitbull said:
Your line of questioning seems to elude that it's you... I could be wrong though. I'll keep watching what other stupid questions you try and ask before drawing a full conclusion
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Do you know the details of Boris's amazing "better" deal? Thats all I am looking for...
 
ToxicBunny said:
Do you know the details of Boris's amazing "better" deal? Thats all I am looking for...
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I never claimed he had an amazing deal? No one has. We all, including you, knows that he tried to negotiate with the EU. Who seems to have shut him down. So tough cookie.
 
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