The Craft Beer Thread

Necropolis said:
Sent them a message on FB - they are alluding to the fact that it is a distribution and storage issue - the go to excuse by local breweries
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So, the Beer Yard in PE has managed to secure a brewing license. Had a chat to the brewer a couple of weeks ago, and he reckons if they decide to bottle they will filter and pasteurize. He's worked in Europe for a couple of years and seems to know what he is talking about. Of interest, he agreed that few guys locally can distribute in bottles for sht
 
I also think for a lot of breweries locally focus on the kegs more than anything and bottling doesn't get the attention it deserves
 
Necropolis said:
I also think for a lot of breweries locally focus on the kegs more than anything and bottling doesn't get the attention it deserves
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Draught is always going to be first prize, problem in this country is that a lot of outlets can't even manage draught properly. I still get beers where I can taste the infection from beer mains that haven't been cleaned properly.

Also we still haven't developed decent glassware care and serving. When I was in Belgium not once did I get a beer that want served in its own branded glass. And I tried lots of different beers when I was there.
 
OMB said:
someone at the craft festival was also complaining about their bottled product, problem is brewers seldom know how to package :p
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That was me. I had their bottles the night before and was disappoint.

Then we arrived at the festival and I started with them and to my surprise draft was excellent. I figured out why. Bottling is a two step process. Gas and chill happens separately where are a good keg, this process happens together on pour.

Smack has the best stout on tap out there. It's beautiful.
 
Wesleigh said:
That was me. I had their bottles the night before and was disappoint.

Then we arrived at the festival and I started with them and to my surprise draft was excellent. I figured out why. Bottling is a two step process. Gas and chill happens separately where are a good keg, this process happens together on pour.

Smack has the best stout on tap out there. It's beautiful.
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What now?

The gas used to pour from a keg is not the gas that carbonates the beer...
 
Wesleigh said:
Then explain the difference between draft and bottle
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Drafts are in an oxygen free environment so the beer doesn't react, the beer is also not exposed to light, also keeping contaminants out of a bottling stage is harder than with drafts simply because of the numbers involved.

My sat night:
Birkenhead Hand Crafted Ale: pleasant, will have again
Darling Native Ale: eh, nothing special, less flavours than the slow lager actually
Gilroys Traditional: mmmmmmmmmmmmmm
Gilroys Serious: mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
 
Necropolis said:
What now?

The gas used to pour from a keg is not the gas that carbonates the beer...
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well that depends, your large commercial brewers like SAB use the CO2 from fermentation to inject back into the product prior to packaging to get the desired CO2 levels right, it's also used in the packaging process to purge kegs of oxygen

Some brewers (Guinness) use nitrogen instead of CO2, this gives the tighter, creamier head, problem is nitrogen is not as soluble as CO2 in liquids
 
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Wesleigh said:
Then explain the difference between draft and bottle
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draft is the American bastardisation of draught :p

draught is unpasteurised, bottled beer is generally pasteurised for longer shelf life, your filling processes between bottled and draught are very different, it's a lot easier to prevent oxygen ingress with a keg than it is with a bottle, a keg you can just purge with CO2 before filling (it's a closed environment), with bottling it's more difficult so your chances of getting oxygen in your head-space (the gap in the bottle between the surface of the beer and the crown) is significantly bigger, ideally you want to fob the beer prior to crowning to force as much head-space air out of the bottle as possible, this limits the chances of your beer getting oxidised
 
Yo...I haven't seen the chocolate one yet :(. Is it good?
 
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