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The Elections Thread - 7 May 2014
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LazyLion
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Brilliant! Been seeing that plane almost everyday lol
LazyLion
King of de Jungle
IEC READY FOR WEDNESDAY
Special voting kicked off on Monday with electoral commission chairwoman Pansy Tlakula expressing confidence that general elections would proceed smoothly on Wednesday.
She said special votes were under way countrywide and home visits were also being conducted.
"Elections have started in earnest and we are ready for Wednesday," she told the media after casting her special vote at the Orange Grove Primary School in Johannesburg.
Tlakula took the time to clarify the confusion related to the campaigning by political parties over the next two days.
She said parties could campaign until midnight on Tuesday but no political event would take place on Wednesday.
"Special voting days are not regarded as [official] voting days as proclaimed by the president. Campaigning can take place until then [Tuesday midnight]," she said.
Source : Sapa /kn/fg/jje/lp
Date : 05 May 2014 11:21
Special voting kicked off on Monday with electoral commission chairwoman Pansy Tlakula expressing confidence that general elections would proceed smoothly on Wednesday.
She said special votes were under way countrywide and home visits were also being conducted.
"Elections have started in earnest and we are ready for Wednesday," she told the media after casting her special vote at the Orange Grove Primary School in Johannesburg.
Tlakula took the time to clarify the confusion related to the campaigning by political parties over the next two days.
She said parties could campaign until midnight on Tuesday but no political event would take place on Wednesday.
"Special voting days are not regarded as [official] voting days as proclaimed by the president. Campaigning can take place until then [Tuesday midnight]," she said.
Source : Sapa /kn/fg/jje/lp
Date : 05 May 2014 11:21
LazyLion
King of de Jungle
ANC GETS MOST PARTY COVERAGE: SURVEY
The ANC narrowly secured more media coverage than the DA in the final election campaign push at the weekend, but Julius Malema was the most watched politician, media survey group DDI said on Monday.
In the past 24 hours the African National Congress enjoyed 36.5 percent of column space in the local media compared to the Democratic Alliance's 36.1 percent.
However, a survey of media coverage for the past week, shows the DA beating the ANC with 35.2 compared to 31.9 percent.
In terms of media coverage of party leaders in the past day, Economic Freedom Fighters leader Malema was leading the pack with 42 percent, far ahead of ANC President Jacob Zuma and DA leader Helen Zille. They both stood at 28 percent.
"This could be expected as Malema is virtually the only major well-known leader in his party, while both the DA and the ANC have other leaders that are yielding publicity for the party."
Source : Sapa /ef/fg/lp/jje
Date : 05 May 2014 11:34
The ANC narrowly secured more media coverage than the DA in the final election campaign push at the weekend, but Julius Malema was the most watched politician, media survey group DDI said on Monday.
In the past 24 hours the African National Congress enjoyed 36.5 percent of column space in the local media compared to the Democratic Alliance's 36.1 percent.
However, a survey of media coverage for the past week, shows the DA beating the ANC with 35.2 compared to 31.9 percent.
In terms of media coverage of party leaders in the past day, Economic Freedom Fighters leader Malema was leading the pack with 42 percent, far ahead of ANC President Jacob Zuma and DA leader Helen Zille. They both stood at 28 percent.
"This could be expected as Malema is virtually the only major well-known leader in his party, while both the DA and the ANC have other leaders that are yielding publicity for the party."
Source : Sapa /ef/fg/lp/jje
Date : 05 May 2014 11:34
LazyLion
King of de Jungle
ANC ELECTION CAMPAIGN WENT WELL: ZUMA
The ANC's election campaign covered every part of the country and was successful, President Jacob Zuma said on Monday.
"We were in every town, city, and village," he told editors at a briefing in Johannesburg.
"We are very happy with the campaign. People have come in big numbers."
He said the rallies held in every province showed the African National Congress had overwhelming support in the country and that South Africans showed great enthusiasm.
Zuma said at some rallies stadiums were not big enough to accommodate the crowds. In Mbombela, Mpumalanga, he said there were more people outside the stadium than inside.
He expressed confidence that the ANC would enjoy an overwhelming victory after Wednesday's elections. After winning, Zuma said he would accelerate service delivery in the next administration.
"We want to move with greater speed this time."
Source : Sapa /mar/fg/jje/th
Date : 05 May 2014 11:26
The ANC's election campaign covered every part of the country and was successful, President Jacob Zuma said on Monday.
"We were in every town, city, and village," he told editors at a briefing in Johannesburg.
"We are very happy with the campaign. People have come in big numbers."
He said the rallies held in every province showed the African National Congress had overwhelming support in the country and that South Africans showed great enthusiasm.
Zuma said at some rallies stadiums were not big enough to accommodate the crowds. In Mbombela, Mpumalanga, he said there were more people outside the stadium than inside.
He expressed confidence that the ANC would enjoy an overwhelming victory after Wednesday's elections. After winning, Zuma said he would accelerate service delivery in the next administration.
"We want to move with greater speed this time."
Source : Sapa /mar/fg/jje/th
Date : 05 May 2014 11:26
Polymathic
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Lets look at a hypothetical here.
Lets say the DA gets 22% of the vote as well as Cope getting 10%, IFP 5% , agang 5% and the EFF gets 12%. In this situations lets assume all other parties get a grand total of 4% of the vote which leaves the ANC with 43% of the vote. What do you think will happen and legally what can happen based on south africa's election laws?
Lets say the DA gets 22% of the vote as well as Cope getting 10%, IFP 5% , agang 5% and the EFF gets 12%. In this situations lets assume all other parties get a grand total of 4% of the vote which leaves the ANC with 43% of the vote. What do you think will happen and legally what can happen based on south africa's election laws?
LazyLion
King of de Jungle
It's extremely unlikely, but the ANC would have to form a coalition government and ally themselves with certain other parties (by making certain concessions and pacts). My guess is they would align with COPE or the EFF... which ever one pushes them over 50%.
OrbitalDawn
Ulysses Everett McGill
No way will COPE get 10%.
LazyLion
King of de Jungle
ISSUES NEGLECTED IN CAMPAIGN COVERAGE: MMA
The media has allowed political parties to set the agenda for coverage of the election campaign and neglected issues affecting ordinary citizens, Media Monitoring Africa said on Monday.
In an interim report on the media's handling of the elections, the watchdog said 52 percent of all stories on Wednesday's polls concerned "party campaigning" and "party politics".
"We would expect parties themselves to focus on these issues. We would also hope that media would have adopted a citizen's agenda and afforded less coverage to these areas as their dominance adds little to the understanding of audiences of the big election issues or parties' policies."
A break-down of election coverage showed that corruption was the third-ranking topic, followed by election logistics. These stories however mostly focused on the Nkandla controversy and the legal woes of Pansy Tlakula, Electoral Commission of SA (IEC) chairwoman.
Much coverage was also devoted to the SABC's decision to ban campaign advertisements by the Democratic Alliance and the Economic Freedom Fighters, the monitoring group said.
It added that the coverage failed to address broader issues such as violence against women, xenophobia, land and housing shortages, and crime.
"It would appear that with some notable exceptions media have allowed their agendas to be determined by those of the politicians and parties, and not citizens," it said.
It listed 20 public figures who were the most prominent sources for stories about the elections. President Jacob Zuma, who also presides over the governing African National Congress, Economic Freedom Fighters leader Julius Malema and Democratic Alliance leader Helen Zille topped the list, while Public Protector Thuli Madonsela came in at number five.
Former ANC Cabinet minister Ronnie Kasrils, who launched a campaign encouraging people to not vote for the ANC, was number nine on the list of most often cited news sources.
The monitoring group said the ANC was the party that drew the most coverage, with 22 percent of stories, followed by the DA and the EFF with 15 and seven percent respectively.
They monitored 50 media -- radio, television and online -- from March 7.
Meanwhile, media survey group DDI said on Monday the ANC narrowly secured more media coverage than the DA in the final election campaign push at the weekend, but Julius Malema drew more attention than any other politician.
Source : Sapa /ef/th/jje
Date : 05 May 2014 13:42
The media has allowed political parties to set the agenda for coverage of the election campaign and neglected issues affecting ordinary citizens, Media Monitoring Africa said on Monday.
In an interim report on the media's handling of the elections, the watchdog said 52 percent of all stories on Wednesday's polls concerned "party campaigning" and "party politics".
"We would expect parties themselves to focus on these issues. We would also hope that media would have adopted a citizen's agenda and afforded less coverage to these areas as their dominance adds little to the understanding of audiences of the big election issues or parties' policies."
A break-down of election coverage showed that corruption was the third-ranking topic, followed by election logistics. These stories however mostly focused on the Nkandla controversy and the legal woes of Pansy Tlakula, Electoral Commission of SA (IEC) chairwoman.
Much coverage was also devoted to the SABC's decision to ban campaign advertisements by the Democratic Alliance and the Economic Freedom Fighters, the monitoring group said.
It added that the coverage failed to address broader issues such as violence against women, xenophobia, land and housing shortages, and crime.
"It would appear that with some notable exceptions media have allowed their agendas to be determined by those of the politicians and parties, and not citizens," it said.
It listed 20 public figures who were the most prominent sources for stories about the elections. President Jacob Zuma, who also presides over the governing African National Congress, Economic Freedom Fighters leader Julius Malema and Democratic Alliance leader Helen Zille topped the list, while Public Protector Thuli Madonsela came in at number five.
Former ANC Cabinet minister Ronnie Kasrils, who launched a campaign encouraging people to not vote for the ANC, was number nine on the list of most often cited news sources.
The monitoring group said the ANC was the party that drew the most coverage, with 22 percent of stories, followed by the DA and the EFF with 15 and seven percent respectively.
They monitored 50 media -- radio, television and online -- from March 7.
Meanwhile, media survey group DDI said on Monday the ANC narrowly secured more media coverage than the DA in the final election campaign push at the weekend, but Julius Malema drew more attention than any other politician.
Source : Sapa /ef/th/jje
Date : 05 May 2014 13:42
LazyLion
King of de Jungle
ALLOW WORKERS TO VOTE: MINISTER
Labour Minister Mildred Oliphant urged employers on Monday to allow employees to vote during Wednesday's elections.
"We urge all employers to allow their employees to exercise their right to vote as citizens of our country," she said in a statement.
She said the right to vote was a fundamental one and a foundation for democracy.
"It is a right that is guaranteed by the Constitution of the Republic of South Africa which is the supreme law of the land."
Oliphant commended employers who were planning not to trade on election day.
Legislation ensured that employees' rights to not work on a public holiday was protected, despite employers' rights to trade on election day.
"The Basic Conditions of Employment and the Public Holidays acts play key roles in protecting this right," Oliphant said.
Source : Sapa /kd/th/jje
Date : 05 May 2014 14:18
Labour Minister Mildred Oliphant urged employers on Monday to allow employees to vote during Wednesday's elections.
"We urge all employers to allow their employees to exercise their right to vote as citizens of our country," she said in a statement.
She said the right to vote was a fundamental one and a foundation for democracy.
"It is a right that is guaranteed by the Constitution of the Republic of South Africa which is the supreme law of the land."
Oliphant commended employers who were planning not to trade on election day.
Legislation ensured that employees' rights to not work on a public holiday was protected, despite employers' rights to trade on election day.
"The Basic Conditions of Employment and the Public Holidays acts play key roles in protecting this right," Oliphant said.
Source : Sapa /kd/th/jje
Date : 05 May 2014 14:18
LazyLion
King of de Jungle
ANC CAMPAIGN A SUCCESS: ZUMA
President Jacob Zuma declared the ANC's election campaign a success on Monday, saying voters had showed great vigour for the ruling party.
"We were in every town, city, and village... It was a very wonderful campaign," he told editors at a briefing in Johannesburg.
"We are very happy with the campaign. People have come in big numbers."
South Africans go to the polls on Wednesday for South Africa's fifth national and provincial post-apartheid elections.
Zuma said South Africans had showed great enthusiasm and listened to what the African National Congress had to say.
In some rural areas people had asked when services would be delivered.
"People say they know it is coming, they just asked when. People know it cannot be done overnight. People said they would die with the ANC."
Zuma said the general experience of all ANC cadres and volunteers during its election campaign was that people knew the country was better today than before 1994.
"People say things have changed for the better....They can now put food on the table..."
Zuma sought to put into context how apartheid policies had a ripple effect on the lives of people today.
"Some people want to quickly forget about the past but today's problems are embedded in the past," he said.
"It started then, it wasn't created now."
Before 1994, energy was in abundance and it was cheaper, he explained.
"Energy was designed to serve a minority of people. Others were not considered."
He said a false impression was given that there was enough energy.
After 1994, he said the ANC expanded structures of the economy to all racial groups so that it could grow.
"We needed more electricity... Every citizen of the country needed to get electricity. We had to roll out electricity to remote areas."
Zuma said nobody talked about corruption in South Africa before 1994 although it was rife.
He said it was the ANC that began the fight against corruption.
"We have been fighting, arresting people... Some people have lost their jobs. Only the ANC is doing something about corruption. Nobody else is doing anything."
On the election trail, people relayed to the party that they could see the changes since 1994, said Zuma.
He said the party's rallies showed it had overwhelming support.
"We think May 7 will go well. We think the ANC will win it overwhelmingly. We are confident and happy."
The year 1994 marked the first time South Africans of all races were allowed to vote.
Source : Sapa /mar/hdw/jje/lp
Date : 05 May 2014 14:23
President Jacob Zuma declared the ANC's election campaign a success on Monday, saying voters had showed great vigour for the ruling party.
"We were in every town, city, and village... It was a very wonderful campaign," he told editors at a briefing in Johannesburg.
"We are very happy with the campaign. People have come in big numbers."
South Africans go to the polls on Wednesday for South Africa's fifth national and provincial post-apartheid elections.
Zuma said South Africans had showed great enthusiasm and listened to what the African National Congress had to say.
In some rural areas people had asked when services would be delivered.
"People say they know it is coming, they just asked when. People know it cannot be done overnight. People said they would die with the ANC."
Zuma said the general experience of all ANC cadres and volunteers during its election campaign was that people knew the country was better today than before 1994.
"People say things have changed for the better....They can now put food on the table..."
Zuma sought to put into context how apartheid policies had a ripple effect on the lives of people today.
"Some people want to quickly forget about the past but today's problems are embedded in the past," he said.
"It started then, it wasn't created now."
Before 1994, energy was in abundance and it was cheaper, he explained.
"Energy was designed to serve a minority of people. Others were not considered."
He said a false impression was given that there was enough energy.
After 1994, he said the ANC expanded structures of the economy to all racial groups so that it could grow.
"We needed more electricity... Every citizen of the country needed to get electricity. We had to roll out electricity to remote areas."
Zuma said nobody talked about corruption in South Africa before 1994 although it was rife.
He said it was the ANC that began the fight against corruption.
"We have been fighting, arresting people... Some people have lost their jobs. Only the ANC is doing something about corruption. Nobody else is doing anything."
On the election trail, people relayed to the party that they could see the changes since 1994, said Zuma.
He said the party's rallies showed it had overwhelming support.
"We think May 7 will go well. We think the ANC will win it overwhelmingly. We are confident and happy."
The year 1994 marked the first time South Africans of all races were allowed to vote.
Source : Sapa /mar/hdw/jje/lp
Date : 05 May 2014 14:23
mcryan
Expert Member
Quietest time of the day to vote?
Does anyone have any idea what the best time of the day will be to go and vote?
At the last elections I went sort of midday and remember it being extremely busy and queuing up for over an hour. If I remember correctly I had some friends at the same voting station go at night and they said it was very quick and there weren't that many people.
Any thoughts?
Does anyone have any idea what the best time of the day will be to go and vote?
At the last elections I went sort of midday and remember it being extremely busy and queuing up for over an hour. If I remember correctly I had some friends at the same voting station go at night and they said it was very quick and there weren't that many people.
Any thoughts?
WaxLyrical
Honorary Master
It gets quieter the later you go
mcryan
Expert Member
Thanks
dualmeister
Honorary Master
Cough *BS* cough
LazyLion
King of de Jungle
If this is the case - lets say ANC go with EFF to get them over the 50%. That would mean we're worse off than we are now, not so?
Not necessarily, ANC currently has 63%, if ANC + EFF have less than that it's a win.