The FIFA corruption thread

greg0205 said:
The Swiss are already standing up and the UK will act. They lost out on 2018 and are bitter. The French, yeah, who knows... I'm guessing it's Asia or local holidays only for a couple of folk in top positions here from here on out.
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I think you are overplaying the bitterness at not getting the 2018 competition. I understand the tendency to think that UK football and the various UK law enforcement agencies are the same, but you couldn't be more wrong. A pissed off FA may have given the UK authorities some evidence, but the authorities will not treat this any differently to any other case. Same goes for US Football and the FBI and the IRS. The authorities don't care who was awarded what.
 
greg0205 said:
According to the Feds, Co-conspirator # 15 and # 16 were involved in both the 2006 and 2010 bids. We only had three folk in both of those committees... Danny Jordaan, Irvin Khoza and Tokyo Sexwale. Place your bets 'cos two of those three are guilty.
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And Chuck Blazer would have given them names as part of his plea-bargain. The Americans know exactly who it is.
 
zippy said:
I think you are overplaying the bitterness at not getting the 2018 competition. I understand the tendency to think that UK football and the various UK law enforcement agencies are the same, but you couldn't be more wrong. A pissed off FA may have given the UK authorities some evidence, but the authorities will not treat this any differently to any other case. Same goes for US Football and the FBI and the IRS. The authorities don't care who was awarded what.
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Reading this morning that the UK's Serious Fraud Office are taking a look. A look, mind you, no official investigation. Still, I think the Brits are bitter. They rolled our Cameron, Beckham and Prince William for the bid and lost to cheats. Andrew Jenkins and the Sunday Times have been unrelenting for years now. The FA's Greg Dyke is talking World Cup boycott (depending on what UEFA decide in Berlin)... These are not happy people. Must add, if the UK do investigate, they must treat it like any other case, else things tend to go south.
 
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greg0205 said:
According to the Feds, Co-conspirator # 15 and # 16 were involved in both the 2006 and 2010 bids. We only had three folk in both of those committees... Danny Jordaan, Irvin Khoza and Tokyo Sexwale. Place your bets 'cos two of those three are guilty.
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http://mobi.iol.co.za/#!/article/soccer-boss-has-high-hopes-for-bid-1.338770

Soccer boss has high hopes for bid
May 4, 2000 at 09:22pm

By Priscilla Singh

Soccer boss Danny Jordaan will set off on a 22-day trans-global dash on Friday night, carrying the hopes of South Africa to host the Soccer World Cup in 2006.

Jordaan will visit South America, New York, Paris, Malaysia, Qatar, Samoa and the Bahamas where he will present the South African bid to host the world's premier soccer event here.

Jordaan is the chief executive officer of the South African 2006 World Cup Bid Committee.

He arrived in Cape Town on Thursday to get a final boost of confidence and backing from former president Nelson Mandela.

"We need all the backing we can get right now and Madiba is crucial to the success of the bid," he said.

Jordaan also handed out specially made Bafana Bafana shirts to the Interactive Africa team, who were solely responsible for the presentations made to the Fifa Technical Committee recently.

Interactive Africa was also responsible for the White Paper for the ministry of sport.

Preparing for the Fifa technical inspection was a monumental task, but the presentation was so good that it reportedly "out-Germaned the Germans", said Interactive Africa head Ravi Naidoo.

Naidoo and his team spent sleepless days and nights finalising every document, file and graphic necessary for the presentation and "it was worth every second".

"The head of the delegation, Alan Rothenberg, was clearly impressed with our presentation and I'm pretty certain that we will be ranked number one," he added.

Jordaan was also confident of South Africa's ranking, saying that "we would be number one or a very close second".

He expressed concern that the Confederation of African Football executives haven't publicly stated their support for South Africa's bid attempt.

"We need more support from Africa for Africa - we need 13 votes out of 24," he said.
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greg0205 said:
According to the Feds, Co-conspirator # 15 and # 16 were involved in both the 2006 and 2010 bids. We only had three folk in both of those committees... Danny Jordaan, Irvin Khoza and Tokyo Sexwale. Place your bets 'cos two of those three are guilty.
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Hmmm...I found an article that about 8 fulfilled that criteria, not 3 (can't find the link now).

Also interesting P.O.V from Andrew Donaldson:

I was in Zurich 11 years ago for the 2010 winning bid announcement. By then, the contest was just between South Africa and Morocco. Chatting to reporters at a restaurant in the railway station –– so clean, you could actually eat there –– it was clear that it was still anyone’s race. Morocco’s main advantage was its proximity to Europe; whereas, although we had the infrastructure, we were half a world away, a long way for fans to travel.
But there were many in our bid delegation who seemed to have no doubt about the outcome whatsoever. It was unsettlingly odd, I reported at the time, that celebrations at the upmarket Dolder Grand Hotel, where the South Africans were staying, began the day before the winner was announced.
The party started on the afternoon of Friday, May 14 2004, immediately after the last presentation to Fifa. The national propensity for the copious and conspicuous consumption of alcohol was proudly on display. Small Swiss serving folk recoiled, as if from vipers, as large men in Bafana Bafana merchandise bore down on the bar like Visigoths and waved empty beer glasses, demanding they be filled –– to the brim –– with scotch.
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http://politicsweb.co.za/opinion/fifa-zurich-may-15-2004
 
Chris said:
Hmmm...I found an article that about 8 fulfilled that criteria, not 3 (can't find the link now).
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http://mg.co.za/article/2015-05-29-fifa-who-in-sa-did-dirty-cup-deal


This narrows the field of possible “suspects” considerably to individuals who were senior members, and presumably board members, of all three committees.

The 2006 bid appears not to have been pursued via a registered entity and its members’ names were not immediately available this week. But compare who served on both the 2010 bid company and the local organising committee boards – and only eight men are left standing.

First, a caveat: the fact that “co-conspirators” #15 and #16 are likely among the eight South African officials named below does not mean that any of them are guilty. The information is from a US indictment and no charge has been proven.

The US authorities may also have got the positions wrong. And, certainly, not all eight are guilty.

The men left standing
The eight are: Jordaan, Khoza, Naspers chairperson Koos Bekker, sports promoter Selwyn Nathan, lawyer and ENSafrica chairperson Michael Katz, former South African Football Association (Safa) chief executive Raymond Hack, Kaizer Chiefs chairperson Kaizer Motaung and former Safa president Molefi Oliphant.
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