The Gauteng E-tolling Thread

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The thing to remember about #Etolls is that if the system was ever going to work, they would have made it work long before now. Just relax, this dead albatross is never gonna fly.
 
Think I might take a trip to my folks, in a different province and re-register my car there...
 
What will effect be if everyone stands together on not paying their License Disks? How can they deem the car to be unworthy without a license disk if no road worthiness is performed in issuing of license disk? Its only heavy vehicles that undergo road worthiness tests in order to be able to receive license disk.

This should have no bearing on the validity of your insurance claim either. As far as I know the assesor comes to inspect vehicle upon you writing it off, the only thing that I've seen them inspect is general condition and tyre condition.
 
I see someone posted this on the MyBB FB page comments:

Withholding licence discs because of outstanding traffic fines and/or e-tolls The practice of withholding licence discs because of outstanding traffic fines due to the existence of outstanding traffic fines issued under either the Criminal Procedure or AARTO Act or unpaid e-tolls is unlawful and amongst others, Sedibeng Local Authority routinely withholds licence discs on the basis that the licensee has outstanding traffic fines.

Of late, there have been multiple claims that licence discs are being withheld due to outstanding e- tolls existing against the licensee’s name and this too is completely unlawful since the legislation governing e-tolls makes no provision for this. If you and/or they take the trouble to look at the bottom of any R114 statement of account issued by the eNaTIS system, you will see that it says: “CLEARANCE CERTI FICATES/LICENCE DISCS MAY NOT BE REFUSED DUE TO OUTSTANDING INFRINGEMENTS REFLECTED ON THIS REPORT. DOCUMENTS AS PRINTED BY THE SYSTEM MUST BE ISSUED.”

This is not printed on the statement for decoration and any licensing authority that acts in contravention of this instruction is effectively breaking the law. If you are presented with an R114 statement and a licensing authority tells you that you must pay all of your traffic fines before renewing your licence, give them your licensing fee and tell them to give you the receipt that the eNaTIS system prints. If you do not have any outstanding licensing fees or penalties, no warrants of arrest or Enforcement Orders against you exist and the vehicle in question does have a currently valid roadworthy certificate, then a licence disc will also print on that receipt.

If it doesn’t, then check the R114 statement thoroughly and if none of the empowering provisions exist on it, demand to see the Chief Licensing Officer. If none of the empowering provisions exist on an R114 statement and they still withhold your licence disc, then the licensing authority is acting unlawfully and you can institute civil litigation to recoup the prejudice you incur by being denied the lawful use of your vehicle from the licensing authority in question. If more people did this, licensing authorities would soon stop their nonsense because they would find themselves having to fork out a lot of money.
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I'm still not paying, I owe about R23 000. I wonder how much other road users, who haven't sucked up to government's unreasonable request, owe for eTolls?
 
Sly21C said:
I'm still not paying, I owe about R23 000. I wonder how much other road users, who haven't sucked up to government's unreasonable request, owe for eTolls?
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Do you use the highway to work daily? I don't know and don't care how much they think I owe them (I don't owe them anything). I use the roads daily to work
 
kianm said:
Do you use the highway to work daily? I don't know and don't care how much they think I owe them (I don't owe them anything). I use the roads daily to work
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Yep! I use the highway daily when traveling to work, and I will continue to use it daily even if I end up owing R100k.
 
Reckon we could see the ANC marching against SANRAL any day now. LOL
 
all I can say is SANRALSePush and ANCSePush - I'm not paying one single cent!

Been watching social media tonight, and SA is not impressed as much as the No 2 (aptly named - did one this morning, and wazn't prettttty) thinks we should be - for the gods sake, we don't ALL live in mud huts and are illiterate
 
Saw the JMPD chops disrupting the anti-etoll protestors by the linksfield bridge, the ones with the banners where people hoot as they pass by. Wonder if the chops were sent there to stop them or it was random. Whatever the gvt tries it will never change people's minds we are not going to pay!!
 
kianm said:
Saw the JMPD chops disrupting the anti-etoll protestors by the linksfield bridge, the ones with the banners where people hoot as they pass by. Wonder if the chops were sent there to stop them or it was random. Whatever the gvt tries it will never change people's minds we are not going to pay!!
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Yeah, bunch of police.

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