The New Apple Advantage

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From Daring Fireball / 9 Sept 2011:

Peter Bright wrote a good piece earlier this week at Ars Technica, documenting his attempt to buy a MacBook Air-like Windows laptop (he doesn’t want an Air running Windows using Boot Camp because he doesn’t like Apple’s U.K. keyboard) and finds the experience confusing (too many models to choose from) and expensive (comparatively-equipped machines from Dell, HP, and Lenovo cost considerably more than an equivalent MacBook Air.

E.g., here’s Bright on shopping from Dell:

It’s even worse if I just browse without searching. The options I get are just… meaningless. Yes, I want “Everyday Computing,” so I want an Inspiron. But hang on, I also want “Design & Performance,” so I want an XPS. Wait a second, I want “Thin & Powerful,” too. So maybe I want a Z Series? But the only line that apparently matches my broad search criteria — lightweight, 11-14" — I wouldn’t even consider because I don’t want a “gaming” laptop, and so I’m never going to click Alienware!

From HP:

The same odd labels cover everything — I know I don’t want “Mini/Netbook,” but I want both “Everyday Computing” (that term again) and “High performance” (because I don’t want it to be slow, do I?). And who knows what “Envy” means? When I tick my screen size and weight boxes, I get back a crop of lousy netbooks that are almost the complete opposite of what I want.

And Lenovo:

It starts off with the same stupid classifications that must make sense to some guy in marketing — “Powered for productivity” and “Optimized for entertainment” and “No-nonsense features built for versatility”.

Here’s what I wrote back in July, linking to Cory Doctorow’s review of the Samsung Galaxy Tab Some-Size-or-Another:

Cory Doctorow calls the new Samsung Galaxy Tab “meh”:

Ever since the iPad shipped, I’ve been waiting impatiently for a comparable Android device to emerge — something of like shape, size and capacity, but from a more open ecosystem than the one Apple offers.

I love these sort of reviews. I want an Apple-quality product without the Apple, and I’m sure I’ll get one soon.

And don’t forget the Apple-like prices, which is where Bright’s laptop hunt faltered. But so why the dearth of Apple-caliber products from companies other than Apple?

Bright’s analysis regarding why the top PC makers seemingly — if not outright admittedly — can’t compete with the MacBook Air strikes me as pretty good:

The problem is that the PC industry, particularly the large OEMs, just aren’t set up to produce this kind of machine. The PC industry is built around an idea of almost infinite variation: different Wi-Fi adaptors, different Ethernet chipsets, different GPUs, different USB3 controllers. This variety is then reflected in the systems available from manufacturers — and more importantly, it’s reflected in the way the systems are actually built.

Design is largely about making choices. The PC hardware market has historically focused on three factors: low prices, tech specs, and configurability. Configurability is another way of saying that you, the buyer, get a bigger say in the design of your computer. (Bright points out, for example, that Lenovo gives you the option of choosing which Wi-Fi adaptor goes into your laptop.) Apple offers far fewer configurations. Thus MacBooks are, to most minds, subjectively better-designed — but objectively, they’re more designed. Apple makes more of the choices than do PC makers.

This isn’t new. And traditionally, the benefit from Apple’s lesser degree of configurability has been the “it just works” factor — better integration of software and hardware. That with support for fewer components, like, say video cards, the Mac OS needs fewer drivers, and the drivers it does have are less likely to result in unusual conflicts.

But now that Apple’s products are more popular, we’re beginning to see another benefit to Apple’s lesser degree of configurability: greater scalability. Apple needs larger quantities of fewer different components to manufacture the same number of computers as other companies. It’s not just the economies of scale that all companies get when they sell 3 or 4 million laptops in a quarter — it’s greater, because Apple’s 3 or 4 million laptops sold share a larger number of the exact same components.

This advantage is more pronounced with iOS devices. In four years, Apple has gone from not being in the phone business to reaping a majority of the handset industry’s worldwide profits. Yet they make only two phones — the iPhone 4 and 3GS.

Likewise with the iPad. Your only choices:

White or black
GSM, CDMA, Wi-Fi-only
16/32/64 GB of storage
The iPad is the best-selling portable computer in the world and those are the only configurable options. One CPU, one display, one amount of RAM.

The new MacBook Airs are iPad-like. I’ve called my 11-inch Air an “iPad Pro”, and the more I use it, the more that feels true. (Note 1). Apple is selling more MacBooks than ever before, but their range of models is shrinking, not expanding. As SSD prices fall, I expect Apple to drop the “Air” and “Pro” distinctions and simply offer four Air-like MacBooks: 11, 13, 15, and 17 inches.

So let’s be lazy for a second here, and attribute all of Apple’s success over the past 15 years to two men: Steve Jobs and Tim Cook. We’ll give Jobs the credit for the adjectives beautiful, elegant, innovative, and fun. We’ll give Cook the credit for the adjectives affordable, reliable, available, and profitable. Jobs designs them, Cook makes them and sells them.

It’s the Jobs side of the equation that Apple’s rivals — phone, tablet, laptop, whatever — are able to copy. Thus the patents and the lawsuits. Design is copyable. But the Cook side of things — Apple’s economy of scale advantage — cannot be copied by any company with a complex product lineup. How could Dell, for example, possibly copy Apple’s operations when they currently classify “Design & Performance” and “Thin & Powerful” as separate laptop categories?

This realization sort of snuck up on me. I’ve always been interested in Apple’s products because of their superior design; the business side of the company was never of as much interest. But at this point, it seems clear to me that however superior Apple’s design is, it’s their business and operations strength — the Cook side of the equation — that is furthest ahead of their competition, and the more sustainable advantage. It cannot be copied without going through the same sort of decade-long process that Apple went through.

(Note 1) Which is not to say we won’t get a real iPad “pro” next year when the iPad expands into a family of two or even three devices, good/better- or good/better/best-style.
 
I've recently migrated from being an iPhone+iPad user to a Samsung GS2+GT10.1 user ... i.e. iOS to Android migration. As a gadgeteer of note I had to do this ... I had to experience the other side.

I've been using the SGS2 since about early to mid July and the SGT10.1 since 22 Aug.

From my personal experience of both ecosystems I must state today that Apple is the better system overall and the one I will recommend to all who would ask my opinion.

Apple's AppStore beats what is available for Android into a pulp. The Android apps are catching up fast in numbers but the quality is just not nearly the same. The Apple vetting system clearly makes for a far more enjoyable experience. There are so many poor copies of poor copies of copies on the Android Market that one can easily divide the total number of apps available by 4. The graphic design of most Android apps are beyond crap ... no attention to good design and detail.

Honeycomb in my books is an epic fail. No way that an honest person can say that this effort is as good or better than what Apple offers with iOS. I am very disappointed with my SGT10.1. Very few quality apps. Of those available many don't work ... and when you do get something that works it will probably have bugs that will frustrate the hell out of the user at times. A simple thing like a wallpaper can't even be done properly on my SGT10.1. The cropping is a freakin mess. Live wallpapers are really cool ... only problem is it causes my tablet to get so slow that it is irritating, so I'm forced to use still images anyway. All data counters get the data usage very wrong. Newton rings. Etc ... etc ... etc. My hope is now in ICS to save this wreck of a tablet. My iPad 1 is better in all the ways that really matter.

My SGS2 is a gem and I love it. Far better experience than the tablet from the same company ... but in terms of the quality of apps it falls far short of the iPhone. Battery life is also poor in comparison. One is forced to disable whatever benefits Android has to get through a business day. No live wallpapers for example.

Then there is Kies (Samsung). What rubbish. I only got it to correctly see my SGT10.1 today after a hot-fix from Samsung was released. I've always had strong reservations about Samsung's ability to get software right and the SGT10.1 and Kies supports my reservations. Whatever Samsung did on top of Honeycomb is worthy of someone's execution.

We often have to listen to how bad iTunes is but I've never had any issues with it (except for beta versions tested as part of development). Whenever I plug my i-devices in iTunes work.

Time for Samsung's CEO to have another $50m equipment burning ceremony.

I know some will strongly disagree with my comments/sentiments here but so be it. Every person has the right to his/her opinion.
 
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From TechCrunch today ...

http://techcrunch.com/2011/09/10/samsung-quietly-continues-to-conquer-the-world/

Is there anything Samsung doesn’t do? The same week I bought myself a shiny newGalaxy S II, they launched asolar-powered netbook*for use in the developing world. Unlike any American or European company, Samsung Electronics manufactures smartphonesand*their memory chips, TVsand*their screens, computers*and*their hard drives. They’re the only entity that’s both arms dealer and aggressor in the midst of the biggest arms race the tech world has ever seen. (Meanwhile, their sister companies in the*Samsung Group*build both ships and skyscrapers, sell life insurance, and operate theme parks.) Their*revenue*exceeds that of Apple or Microsoft, and their global reach is unparalleled.Sure, they’re*fighting*a*massive*patent*war*with Apple*around*the*world*– but at the same time,*every iPhone is 26% Samsung; even if they lose every legal battle, every iPad/iPhone/iTouch sale will still*cha-ching*in part into Samsung’s coffers. Their flagship phones and devices*are Android, but they also maintain their own entirely separate*Bada*smartphone platform, and have even kept one finger in the*MeeGo*pie, while declining to acquire it. Oh, yes, and they’re also apparently launching a*Windows 8 tablet any day now. Six months ago this seemed like a pointless lack of focus, and reminded me of William Gibson’s Josef Virek: “Aspects of my wealth have become autonomous, by degrees; at times they even war with one another. Rebellion in the fiscal extremes.” But now that Google has bought Motorola, and there’s a real risk of other Android vendors becoming second-class citizens, it seems like wise long-term thinking.So does that solar-powered netbook. Developing markets are ripe for a massive boom in consumer technology, but are still hampered by shoddy infrastructure, especially*power cuts and shortages. That means both rural areas and megacities alike will welcome tech whose lifespan is prolonged by solar power. Of course, the real action will be in cheap smartphones, as*I predicted last year, and as shown in Kenya this year, where Huawei’s $90-with-no-contract Android phone has quickly become a bestseller. I expect that within the next six months, Samsung will launch its own bare-bones, cut-price Android phone — and maybe a companion solar charger — to join Huawei in targeting the five billion people who live outside the current “traditional” smartphone market.And here’s another intriguing left-field prospect. Their products compete directly with Apple’s, in both the courtroom and the market, and now that Google has bought Motorola, they too have become half a competitor. But Samsung doesn’t have anything remotely like the software talent or online presence you find in Cupertino and Mountain View. If they wanted to expand into that space as well (admittedly a big if) they could take a half-step in that direction by acquiring poor crippled Yahoo!. It would be relatively cheap, by Samsung’s gargantuan standards; it would fit nicely into their megaconglomerate soup-to-nuts strategy; and I suspect it would also be the best thing to happen to Yahoo! in a long time.

(Sorry for all the crap inbetween the text ... copying it on my tablet brings all that along and when I try to edit it the crap is gone)

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My hope is now in ICS to save this wreck of a tablet.

Excuse my ignorance - what is ICS?

I have been playing on-and-off with Android devices in shops and I've been very tempted to get a tab of sorts to satisfy my gadgeteer cravings. I don't have an iPad but I do have an iPhone4 and don't see the point of having two phones.

The one Android feature that I do really like though, is the Google Maps app. I was in a car with a colleague to day who has an HTC Desire and we used it for finding our way to a team event. I hope the navigation features can make it into the Google Maps app on the iPhone. At the same time, it's worth noting that, while doing the navigation, the phone was using power faster than it was charging. This may be down to the car charger but it's a complaint I've heard from a lot of Android phone owners, and not just HTC.

With regards to the laptops, the problem of *too much choice* is a well understood (especially by Apple) and researched phenomenon. But you left out one person - Jonathan Ives. The current Apple design and elegance has a lot to do with him.

I have been lusting over a Sony Vaio TZ for my PC needs for a while. They're super compact. The ones I've handled are more compact than most netbooks. But they're not netbooks. They're also magnificently expensive.
 
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Samsung = Jack of all trades but master of a few? I do agree with the software comment ... as I said earlier, Samsung's not good at it. They should consider acquiring a strong software company.

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ICS = Ice Cream Sandwich = Android 4. One Android for phones and tablets.

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Personally I think Samsung really sucks, I have no clue why people are even buying their crap, from all the complaints I have heard on say Samsung's 10.1 tablets to even the touchwiz UI on the phones that nobody seems to like.

Here is hoping that they die a quick death or go back to their Bada world, and yes I am an Android fan.
 
Koffiejunkie, Android has some mean strengths, make no mistake. But it's not Apple. That Apple "always works and looks great" thing is just too good. The apps are awesome. And one can get over the limitations with the right apps. Honeycomb is not helping Android ... not with what I experience on the SGT10.1. It feels like a beta test and I'm the sucker to test it at my cost. Google must get the OEM's in line, especially when it comes to updates. No 3.2 yet for the SGT and it needs all the help it can get. Elimentals is very happy with his Asus Transformer however so it seems like Sammie dropped the ball. I am very happy with my SGS2 but know already that the iPhone 5 will trump it all things considered.

The Apple jail is a place of luxury and comfort and may be a better place to be considering the products of freedom on the outside.

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Koffiejunkie, Jonathan Ives is an industrial design genius. He's going to be the master studied by students for ages to come. He and Jobs was the perfect fit.

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Dont get me wrong I love the iPhone. My 1st iPhone was the 3g model. The ui rocks, that is one reason why I love the MIUI Android rom because it looks a hell of a lot like the iPhone's, and yes I have the 1st Gen iPad as well. The only reason I prefer android to iOS is because of the freedom. I dont like the iTunes world

I have only 3 problems with iOS.

1. My media is on external storage (Cheap NAS) and I use a mixed environment of Linux and Windows PC's. iTunes decide to break the dam library every time the drive letter changes and this has driven me up the walls like you have nooooo idea. Yes I can fix this by changing the way I do thing, but I am set in my ways so my gadgets should follow my rules and not me follow theirs.

2. I love the fact that I can use SMB shares from both my Linux and Windows desktops to and from my devices, Example: once this new album I am downloading as I type is on my nas I can simply open the Explorer navigate to my phone and copy the songs into the library. Even if the phone is downstairs. Again I have AirShare on my I devices so I can copy to and from but not with the ease I am use to. And booting into windows just so I can open iTunes for streaming music is a Pain in the exit valve.

3. I love to customize my desktop and I know you can do some of it with iOS once Jailbroken but not with the ease I can do it on Android.

As for why my iPad is gathering dust vs the Asus, my Asus tablet is more of a PC than a tablet because of the windows sharing, mouse and keyboard input with USB host support, that can turn into a tablet when I want to surf the web.

For people in the street I would normally recommend an iPad way before an Android Tablet, on the forum with geeks, I would be more inclined to recommend the Android tablets (Not Samsung until they decide to fix the update schedule and Quality control)
 
@Elimentals, I hear you. Like I said, I do want to get an Android tablet to play with. The reason I don't have any tablet yet, though, is because I have no use for one - I can't justify the purchase for anything other than tinkering, and right now I just don't have the time.

With regards to freedom, this is a subjective thing. Using a Mac gives me the freedom to run Aperture. YMMV...

I've been a Linux user since the days when you *had* to compile your own kernel if you had any hope of booting at all, and you had to compile your own X. I used it as my main desktop for nearly a decade, but in the last couple of years my enthusiasm has faded. I still use it at work, because it makes the most sense for the work I do, but little things are starting to drive me nuts. Gnome is an utter mess, KDE is on a slippery slope. I used to like XFCE but it's gotten almost as big and slow and too much like Gnome. The rest of the desktops are either too minimalist or incomplete for my taste. The photo management options (a big chunk of my computing needs) is dire, at best. Support for RAW files, while very up to date, is pretty poor. For home computing, I just don't have the patience and I really don't see the benefit.

I'm done choosing hardware based on what I think things should be like. A computer is a tool, I need it to do what I need to do and for the rest stay the hell out of my way.
 
I really really really hope with Amazon bringing out an Android tablet the quality and selection of tablet apps will improve. I'm sooo gatvol of all the weather widgets ... in how many different ways can someone appreciate tomorrow's expected temperatures?! Beyond weather there is very little of that great Android over iOS feature.

Then, for all the beautiful freedom of Android my SGT10.1 don't have a USB port ... and good luck trying to get that special propriety adapter.

Samsung tried so hard to match the iPad 2 that it broke Android. Samsung, with the SGT10.1, is helping Apple sell more iPads. Let's hope Amazon gets it right. I like Amazon ... spends plenty of money on Kindle books every month ... but their Android Market is not yet open to us in SA ... hope this changes.

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I really really really hope with Amazon bringing out an Android tablet the quality and selection of tablet apps will improve. I'm sooo gatvol of all the weather widgets ... in how many different ways can someone appreciate tomorrow's expected temperatures?! Beyond weather there is very little of that great Android over iOS feature.

Then, for all the beautiful freedom of Android my SGT10.1 don't have a USB port ... and good luck trying to get that special propriety adapter.

Samsung tried so hard to match the iPad 2 that it broke Android. Samsung, with the SGT10.1, is helping Apple sell more iPads. Let's hope Amazon gets it right. I like Amazon ... spends plenty of money on Kindle books every month ... but their Android Market is not yet open to us in SA ... hope this changes.

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Worse part about Samsung's tablet is, I have seen from forums to App reviews that a lot of apps simply refuse to work on 10.1 or even constantly crash I suspect its because of the lack of updates. Its really sad to be honest, I also dont think Amazon will be the answer, from what I have seen http://techcrunch.com/2011/09/02/amazon-kindle-tablet/

Android makes for a great phone, but in many ways the tablet does not have the same "feel good" factor, here again I think Google is to blame and I have a feeling it has got to do with their ChromeOS plans, also for me to get apps developed for Honeycomb is worse developing experience I have ever had.

I have a Intel i7 3 Ghz/Nvidia 480 system with 8 gigs of DDR3 ram and my OS is running of a 120 gig SDD. There is no way in hell my system should stutter when running emulation, but it does. Hell I can run 3 Linux vm's and even start up a Windows server VM all at the same time, with my system not even blinking, but noooo dont try and start a honeycomb emu on its own from the SDK. The only way I can test my apps without losing my hair is to plug in my Tablet and test the app on the device.

Edit: forgot to mention, it got a little better using 3.2 vs 3.0 so I suspect this is one of the reason Apps die on Samsung vs other tablets simply because testing on 3.0 is guaranteed to spoil your day. And if you look at development as a whole, iOS is really way better than Android. I suspect the real SDK to fear here is Visual Studio cause any 10 year old can pump out apps on it, so it might reflect the numbers we will see on Windows Tablets in the future.
 
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Elimentals, always enlightening to read your posts.

I also think MS is going to become a tablet heavy hitter. The apps are going to flood in like there's no tomorrow. What concerns me is that I can't help getting the impression that Google allocates its junior staff to Android as part of their development. It's not Google's core business but as has been said many times a moat to protect the real treaures in the castle. This becomes very evident with Honeycomb I believe. On top of that all Android resources are probably going into ICS now ... and if we're ever going to see that on the 10.1 is another matter. Problem is that Samsung is just too big with too many products to hear and care about their tablet users. The company is into all kinds of stuff, incl construction. Apple does a few things and they do them well.

The way I see this going on tablets is the old well known war between MS and Apple ... an extension of the PC vs Mac war. Why I believe MS should get out of WP and just eat what Android feeds them on phones.

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