The Official Ashes 2013 Thread - ENG vs AUS

[Creag]

Good solid thrashing dished out by the Aussies. Unless the English learn from this, this is going to be a very one-sided series.

 

[Creag]

/remember "root" means something else in Oz!!

http://www.koalanet.com.au/australian-slang.html#R

I had to look that up. Dishing the verbal out with stick, they are!

 

[FrankCastle]

Good solid thrashing dished out by the Aussies. Unless the English learn from this, this is going to be a very one-sided series.

And they've just lost Trott.

Ashes will return to the Aussies.

 

[AfricanTech]

And they've just lost Trott.

Ashes will return to the Aussies.

Another batsman wilts in the harsh Australian sun - Cullinan was never the same after that fateful tour all those years ago.

 

[Wall]

Another batsman wilts in the harsh Australian sun - Cullinan was never the same after that fateful tour all those years ago.

I don't think Trott wilted, I think this is something that's been haunting him for a while now, atleast, that's the reports I've read....

 

[AfricanTech]

I don't think Trott wilted, I think this is something that's been haunting him for a while now, atleast, that's the reports I've read....

Mmmm, I suppose wilted is the wrong word - cracked along a hidden fault line is probably better.

 

[iCare]

suck it up Pommies....

Atomcrusher glad to hear it "I support SA, and anyone who plays against England"

I'm also a ABE(AnyoneButEngland) supporter

 

[iCare]

if Trott was struggling with this 'dis-order' why the hell go on tour....seems a bit odd to make the call now.

 

[Alan]

Just like Trescothick. Pampered pommies just can't take the heat. Wonder what the soldiers in afghanistan think of this

 

[AirWolf]

http://www.espncricinfo.com/the-ashes-2013-14/content/current/story/692405.html

Trott is the third England cricketer to depart a tour with a stress-related illness in recent years. The opener Marcus Trescothick left the 2005-06 India tour and the 2006-07 Ashes tour of Australia before the first Test in Brisbane, while the left-arm spinner Michael Yardy flew home from the 2011 World Cup. Neither cricketer has played for England again.

 

[Creag]

http://stats.espncricinfo.com/ci/engine/player/47623.html?class=1;template=results;type=batting

In OZ Trott scored 464 runs and averages 68 against these same bowlers.

England have won 4 of the last 5 Ashes series and Trott has played in the last 3 wins against the same bowlers

So the criticism is unfounded or perhaps by some deluded persons.


Get well soon Trotters.
And go Poms!

Absolutely agree. Trott ain't a wimp. Stress is an ugly thing and gets the better of the best sometimes. I am not an English fan, but I have personally experienced stress and know how it can sneak up on you and kick you hard in the teeth. Unless it is recognised and dealt with accordingly, it will floor you when you least expect it. So I also say, get well soon Trott. Cricket is poorer for your absence.

 

[AthenianOwl]

Mitchell Johnson says he is bowling faster than he ever has, and has vowed to give Jonathan Trott and Alastair Cook a good going over with the short ball in the first Test.

And if the left-armer, who is set to receive an Ashes recall on Tuesday, cannot send England's linchpins packing, then hurting them would be the second option, he said.

Trott received a sneak peek of what he can come to expect from Johnson next week in Brisbane during the one-day international series in September, when he was hit on the head by a searing bouncer and also lost his wicket to another short ball.

''I look at the England one-day series and really went hard at a few of those players, in particular Trott. I think he's come out and said he's not worried about the short ball, but we saw what he was like in the one-day series, he definitely didn't like it,'' Johnson said.

''There are guys in their team who we'll definitely go after.''

Cook, the England captain, can also expect to receive some rough stuff from the fiery and rejuvenated Johnson, who has twice broken Graeme Smith's hands and last summer shattered Kumar Sangakkara's finger.

''If I can get a few of those rearing balls towards the ribs or those throat balls and if he gets in the way of it that's his own fault,'' Johnson said. ''You'd rather get the wicket more than anything, you get a lot of joy out of that when you get a player like that out. I [had] a look at last summer and Sangakkara was an example. I've busted his finger and he's one of their best players, so they were one short and I got a couple of those in the middle order. If you can't get them out, that's the second option.''

Johnson could well be the fastest bowler in world cricket at the moment. During the recent limited-overs series in India, which was dominated by the batsmen, Johnson frequently broke the 150km/h mark, once reaching as high as 155km/h. The scary thing for England is Johnson was not even trying to bowl fast. Not surprisingly, batsmen are not exactly lining up to face him in the nets.

''It was something I wasn't actually working on in my time off, I was a little bit surprised that my speeds were getting there,'' he said. ''I felt like it was coming out of my hands at good pace. When you speak to some of your teammates and those you play against, they give you a good indication it's good pace.

''I don't think I've consistently hit the 150s. If I can do that and swing the ball it becomes a big weapon.''

The great Dennis Lillee has also been working closely with Johnson, encouraging him on long runs to help him build the fitness required for the longer run-up he has used since coming back last year from a career-threatening toe injury. ''When I sit back and look at it, I felt like my run-up rhythm was the best it's ever been, I've lengthened my run-up since coming back from my toe injury.

''That's made a big difference. I just feel like I'm getting better momentum through the crease and being able to hit those speeds without applying myself out of the water or forcing it, it felt pretty good.''

Johnson said he had also been used in shorter spells, which allows him to bowl at a higher intensity.

''If I was bowling eight-over spells I wouldn't be able to bowl at that pace for a long period of time,'' he said. ''Maybe I could get through a Test match doing it like I could during the week [last week] but I don't think I could sustain it for the whole summer.''

http://www.smh.com.au/sport/cricket/ashes-2013-mitchell--johnson-to-go-for-poms-throats-20131111-2xcfv.html

 

[Wall]

Absolutely agree. Trott ain't a wimp. Stress is an ugly thing and gets the better of the best sometimes. I am not an English fan, but I have personally experienced stress and know how it can sneak up on you and kick you hard in the teeth. Unless it is recognised and dealt with accordingly, it will floor you when you least expect it. So I also say, get well soon Trott. Cricket is poorer for your absence.

+1, sometimes we forget that these players are also human and feel the same way we do. I hope he makes a full recovery and gets back to doing what he loves, playing cricket.

 

[Alan]

Absolutely agree. Trott ain't a wimp. Stress is an ugly thing and gets the better of the best sometimes. I am not an English fan, but I have personally experienced stress and know how it can sneak up on you and kick you hard in the teeth. Unless it is recognised and dealt with accordingly, it will floor you when you least expect it. So I also say, get well soon Trott. Cricket is poorer for your absence.

True but its hard to accept somebody who gets paid huge amounts to do what he loves is overcome by 'stress' when his team needs him most and goes home. Considering what so many people fight through just to survive the day.

But we dont know what's going on in his personal life or if he is suffering from some medical condition....

 

[SinghDude]

What exactly is a stress disorder ?

Is it as a result of Trott not able to withstand the constant media barrage and limelight ?


Makes no sense when he has the balls to still sledge the opposition.

HTF does one get stressed playing sport whilst earning millions ? Like Alan said... go ask the soldiers in Afgan !!!!

 

[Alan]

We do know.
Its all over the internet...

oh yeah 'stress'. Any members of other teams gone down with this condition besides members of the English team?

 

[SinghDude]

oh yeah 'stress'. Any members of other teams gone down with this condition besides members of the English team?

i dont get it.


Bunch of wimps.... there are millions that didn't have the opportunity to walk in the shoes of privileged " sport stars "

 

[Creag]

Stress has no respect for its victim. I thought I was immune and impenetrable. Almost cost me my marriage two years ago.

 

[AirWolf]

Chokers --> South Africa;
Stressers --> England

Whatever we do those tags linger.

 

[Alan]

Stress has no respect for its victim. I thought I was immune and impenetrable. Almost cost me my marriage two years ago.

Depends what you stress about I suppose. One thing to take into account is in top flight cricket 'stress' just has too affect 10% of your game and you might as well go home.