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Love Me Tender said:
What are your guys opinion on using PC Builder? Is there better cheaper options available...
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It's good if you want to build it yourself or let them build it for you. Makes picking all the items easy if you're starting from scratch. Prices are inline with the parts they sell, it's just the assembly price they charge extra.
 
Love Me Tender said:
What are your guys opinion on using PC Builder? Is there better cheaper options available...
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For quotes or to help you start thinking it's worthwhile.... many of us though would obsessively exhaust all alternatives as an exercise in itself.
 
Wootware's pc builder starting "select your budget" is 15k, boggles my mind as to why they would drive away so many potential clients with such a high starting price.
Some people might just want a new el cheapo office pc/media pc that can be had for 5-6k from many other sites. Heck even a 5.5k ryzen "G" can get you started in esports titles.

Be that as it may, even their 15k budget wizard cant build a pc for 15k, goes over that budget lol.
 
Exaelea said:
Wootware's pc builder starting "select your budget" is 15k, boggles my mind as to why they would drive away so many potential clients with such a high starting price.
Some people might just want a new el cheapo office pc/media pc that can be had for 5-6k from many other sites. Heck even a 5.5k ryzen "G" can get you started in esports titles.

Be that as it may, even their 15k budget wizard cant build a pc for 15k, goes over that budget lol.
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Must say decent CPU + MB + Ram is easy R15K [That's not even top tier]

Problem is MB prices are ridiculous prices, DDR4 prices are good now, but DDR5 Still expensive.

Works for me...
 

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rambo919 said:
At least double now what it was a few years back. They add all the extras you don't need and ask you even more for the one's you actually do.


They seem to price it by the speed not the generation.
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You right prices even for DDR5 has come down a lot. I would even call it acceptable. Still the MB kak expensive and if you want a nice GPU to go with it you will cry.
 
TofuMofu said:
It's good if you want to build it yourself or let them build it for you. Makes picking all the items easy if you're starting from scratch. Prices are inline with the parts they sell, it's just the assembly price they charge extra.
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Thanks, appreciated
 
Quicks said:
Works for me...
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The PC Builder makes some choices that are a little odd, let's say. I've checked it out a couple times most recently for a PC I did for a friend and there was an appreciable amount of what I'd class as frivolous spending (admittedly out of a budget of 50k).

In the example it generated up there, there's stuff that can be improved on -

1) The 5600X is not worth the 400 bucks over the 5600 + the 650 bucks on the cooler
2) G.Skill Ripjaws is cheaper for the same speed \ capacity, another 400 bucks saved there
3) FSP power supply? All their models can't be terrible, I guess. The MSI MAG A-BN is a solid budget option.
4) Some judicious scrimping here and there and it's possible to end up with a graphics card that's a couple tiers beyond what the PC Builder suggests.

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All in all, I'm sure it's helpful as a vision board kind of thing but really it's not great when it comes down to the detail (in my limited experience).
 
Neoprod said:
The PC Builder makes some choices that are a little odd, let's say. I've checked it out a couple times most recently for a PC I did for a friend and there was an appreciable amount of what I'd class as frivolous spending (admittedly out of a budget of 50k).

In the example it generated up there, there's stuff that can be improved on -

1) The 5600X is not worth the 400 bucks over the 5600 + the 650 bucks on the cooler
2) G.Skill Ripjaws is cheaper for the same speed \ capacity, another 400 bucks saved there
3) FSP power supply? All their models can't be terrible, I guess. The MSI MAG A-BN is a solid budget option.
4) Some judicious scrimping here and there and it's possible to end up with a graphics card that's a couple tiers beyond what the PC Builder suggests.

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All in all, I'm sure it's helpful as a vision board kind of thing but really it's not great when it comes down to the detail (in my limited experience).
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Agree, Nothing is flawless...


But think about it people that use dumb tools like this probably dont know any better... These are the same products that dont sell so well at wootware. So they need a way to get rid of them and make money?

I mean who the fcks buys a 3050 Nvidia for R6K where the AMD 6600 goes for R6K and it twice as fast?
 
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Can anyone here recommend a B650/X670 mobo with S/PDIF-Out?

It is required. I am currently looking at the MSI Tomahawk, but I know people who experienced issues with the board. This board is in my price range, but I don't want to buy it and end up with memory issues amongst other things. Options seem limited, concerning price, unless I am looking to import.
 
Fulcrum29 said:
Can anyone here recommend a B650/X670 mobo with S/PDIF-Out?

It is required. I am currently looking at the MSI Tomahawk, but I know people who experienced issues with the board. This board is in my price range, but I don't want to buy it and end up with memory issues amongst other things. Options seem limited, concerning price, unless I am looking to import.
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Gigabyte B650M Aorus Pro AX WiFi
Asus ProArt B650 Creator and the Rog Strix Gaming WiFi

I probably have a soundcard or 2 lying around with optical out if you're interested.
 
Neoprod said:
Gigabyte B650M Aorus Pro AX WiFi
Asus ProArt B650 Creator and the Rog Strix Gaming WiFi

I probably have a soundcard or 2 lying around with optical out if you're interested.
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I received the same recommendation, but I was told to consider the TUF. Eh, no S/PDIF... Another recommended the Asrock. These boards are expensive, and I am not spending more than R7000. It is expensive at the distros too. Margins are thin.

Perhaps I should drop S/PDIF. Odd that only MSI have it in that price range. I do have converters, but it is not ideal. Could run it through a DAC too, and I do have the SSL. I am then still limited with active I/O unless I install a passive switch.

I haven't even looked at the memory options and what is best compatible.

Yeah, I am upgrading and buying new. Haven't purchased new in over 10 years.
 
Fulcrum29 said:
I received the same recommendation, but I was told to consider the TUF. Eh, no S/PDIF... Another recommended the Asrock. These boards are expensive, and I am not spending more than R7000. It is expensive at the distros too. Margins are thin.

Perhaps I should drop S/PDIF. Odd that only MSI have it in that price range. I do have converters, but it is not ideal. Could run it through a DAC too, and I do have the SSL. I am then still limited with active I/O unless I install a passive switch.

I haven't even looked at the memory options and what is best compatible.

Yeah, I am upgrading and buying new. Haven't purchased new in over 10 years.
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The Asus Prime B650-Plus is more reasonable (5k-ish local) and has spdif out. Runs hot (not hot enough to throttle - VRMs over 95C with a 7950X pulling a full load) - that's not an issue if you're using a 7900X core or lower. The 16 core would be fine with a power limit.

On memory, DDR5-6000 CL30 is a safe bet - most 7000 CPUs top out at 6400.
 
Neoprod said:
The Asus Prime B650-Plus is more reasonable (5k-ish local) and has spdif out. Runs hot (not hot enough to throttle - VRMs over 95C) with a 7950X pulling a full load - that's not an issue if you're using a 7900X core or lower. The 16 core would be fine with a power limit.
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It is kinda the issue. I already have a 7950X3D. Yes, it uses less power. I don't like RGB and AIOs so was lucky to come across the Deepcool cooler discounted on Takealot. I was planning on picking between two value options on Wootware. The Assassin IV is kind to VRMs.

Anyway I am snoring as I am typing this. Will talk about this later.
 
Anyone with a 7800X3D or 7950X3D, I want to know which motherboard and memory you used and if you experienced any stability issues?

I have currently shortlisted Gigabyte and Asus boards. I have been told to rather go with Asrock, but supply seems limited. I want to make sure that there are happy users and if any firmware/BIOS updates have fixed any issues they experienced. A load of these boards are already revisioned.
 
Fulcrum29 said:
Anyone with a 7800X3D or 7950X3D, I want to know which motherboard and memory you used and if you experienced any stability issues?

I have currently shortlisted Gigabyte and Asus boards. I have been told to rather go with Asrock, but supply seems limited. I want to make sure that there are happy users and if any firmware/BIOS updates have fixed any issues they experienced. A load of these boards are already revisioned.
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Never ever go Asus..... they have gone nuts
 
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