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bridgeburner said:
Nike did a pretty good job with the kit I must say. I thought the Asics kit we used for the past two seasons was awful
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Didn't mind the vintage look pf the ASICS jerseys. Not a fan of the stripes on these jerseys. Seems Bok jerseys get lighter and lighter with the years.
 
Did mtn not pay their bill? Logo is blacked out on the shirts
 
netstrider said:
Something wrong with this young crop.
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I can't put my finger on it.

Poor scrum, poor lineout, constantly giving away penalties and then the constant knock ons.

Not aure what is going on but it's not working.

Let's hope they can manage a win here.
 
cavedog said:
I can't put my finger on it.

Poor scrum, poor lineout, constantly giving away penalties and then the constant knock ons.

Not aure what is going on but it's not working.

Let's hope they can manage a win here.
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We dont have the bigger players. Being out muscled
 
Yoh Baby boks het n 2de asem gekry...

Argentina on the other side are completely exhausted.
 
cavedog said:
I can't put my finger on it.

Poor scrum, poor lineout, constantly giving away penalties and then the constant knock ons.

Not aure what is going on but it's not working.

Let's hope they can manage a win here.
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Just last year we steamrolled everyone in the 6N by large margins under the same coach so I think it's personnel.
 
Baby boks bulldozed a win in the last 20min.

They need to work on the issues. The team itself looks good. Individuals doing really well like that 12 Ethan.

They need to gel as a team though because it looks poor if they don't.
 
Not a great performance by baby boks. Too many solo runners going for glory, no patience in the phases to build pressure. Argies were excellent at the breakdowns. We could have score at least three more tries if we kept the ball. Defence in the 2nd half was a big positive. I don't see this side making it to the finals though.
 
Enzo Matrix said:
We dont have the bigger players. Being out muscled
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Disagree. This same team thumped the u20 6nations previously.

The problem appears to be of discipline, lack of cohesion and being very slow to adapt to the playing condition, weather, pitches etc.

Seeing little to zero patience, trying to force, rush things in a way can oft get away with on much firmer, quicker playing surfaces etc.

Seems potentially an aura of arrogance by team management as the real root of the problems, who keep sending the team into these events (even the 6n last season), undercooked without any real build up/prep game time and the lads on the field paying the price.
 
Glad the Baby Boks could pull off the win in the end but I am also not sure that we can win our semi-final against Ireland.
Onto the Senior Boks - I like the new primary jersey but the away jersey looks awful.
 
From Rugby365.com

TRANSFER NEWS: Springbok fullback Willie le Roux will be playing in the United Rugby Championship next season.

On Tuesday, the Bulls confirmed that the 33-year-old will be playing his rugby in Pretoria until June 2026.

He will only arrive at Loftus once the Springboks conclude their World Cup campaign.

Le Roux recently ended a four-year stint with Japanese club Verblitz and rumours were circulating that he was going to join a South African team.

The Stormers and Sharks were two of the teams mentioned in reports, but the Bulls have now won the race to secure his signature.
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Aussies don't like the Springbok approach:

I’m not sure why punters need to be convinced of this.
Yes the Wallabies are down a few due to injury, but SA have made a choice to stand down 13 and send them to another country in preparation for another game.
It is up to Wallabies to make pay now, if they can’t beat them with 13 missing they were never going to win if the 13 stayed and played.
This is where SA see them, so go out and prove them wrong.
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So the Springboks handed a TEAM B to Eddy Jones to beat in South Africa.

Well… well.. that shows how much respect the Springboks gives to the Wallabies, a two-time winner of the Rugby World Cup.

This decision is the Springbok’s backhand smack at Eddy Jones’ niggling at the Springbok’s coaching team in the last week… simply telling Eddy Jones that his Wallabies team is only as good as the Springboks B-Team.

The pressure on Eddy Jones to beat the Springbok went up 5 notches higher after today.

Eddy Jones must WIN… otherwise, his reputation and that of Australian rugby are on the line… and the road to RWC for the Wallabies will be full of deep potholes… and might as well forget about worrying how to beat France or the AllBlacks or even Ireland Argentina in the RWC.

It is a MUST win or else… for Eddy Jones and the Wallabies.
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Voluntarily not picking 12 of your starters, and picking a #10 that has never started in a test despite a great URC campaign, as well as a swathe of players who have no caps when their are other players who have over 50, what else would you call that?

I’ll ask the question this way: what is the Springboks best side right now that is available? If it is not the team named above, then the one above is a B-side.

The third point is whether it is a B-side or not has nothing to do with whether they (SA) or the public believes they are good enough to beat Australia. If it is believed they are genuinely good enough to beat Australia then Australia are seen as a very weak side.
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Stick it on the wall Nienaber!
 
netstrider said:
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Stick it on the wall Nienaber!
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This is a lose/lose scenario they've created for themselves. If they win, well then by their own admission, they beat a B team Bok side (although we know it's not a B team). And if they lose, they have lost to a B team Bok side, so what does that say about them and their RWC prospects.
 
Werner1975 said:
I think it shows good player management to send a clutch of players on to Kiwiland beforehand. I also think that the team selected for Saturday is a good one and that we are not disrespecting Australia.
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They seem to forget completely that we did the same in 2019 and won 35 - 17 and then drew 16-all with NZ the following week.
Agent_Smith said:
This is a lose/lose scenario they've created for themselves. If they win, well then by their own admission, they beat a B team Bok side (although we know it's not a B team). And if they lose, they have lost to a B team Bok side, so what does that say about them and their RWC prospects.
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Yep. There are still about 11 RWC winners in this side, 12 now that Kitshoff is confirmed to start in place of Ox Nche.
 
netstrider said:
They seem to forget completely that we did the same in 2019 and won 35 - 17 and then drew 16-all with NZ the following week.

Yep. There are still about 11 RWC winners in this side, 12 now that Kitshoff is confirmed to start in place of Ox Nche.
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Predictably, it's the Aussie media that is making these ludicrous statements. Reece Hodge had this to say.

While there have been suggestions in the Australian media that the Springboks had “disrespected” the Wallabies by splitting their squad and sending 13 players to New Zealand to overcome the jetlag ahead of next weekend’s clash against the All Blacks, Hodge wasn’t going to take the bait and rather said it was a luxury that few sides had - to be able to send almost a full team early while having the depth to select a quality outfit to play at home.

"They have the luxury of four or five or six guys in every position. Make no mistake, it's a very high-quality team and it's going to be a massive test for us," Hodge added.

"They're going to be coming out firing in their first home test of the year so we don't really expect too much different there in terms of selection."
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Werner1975 said:
I really hope we give them a good Klap. Aussies just above the Poms of teams I despise.
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The only difference is we generally pitch up for the Poms. They tout they have won 3/4 against the Boks, conveniently forgetting they were all in Australia.

Hope we win otherwise it's 4/5.
 
Funny how nobody seems to actually know what jetlag is.
Travel fatigue comes straight after travel and can take a couple days for full recovery, especially after very many hrs travel.
Jetlag is a slow poison, comes later, weeks later, as you lose sleep because of the timezone jumps and taking time for biological clock to acclimatize/adapt to new day/night routine vs home.
Was why our SR teams traditionally did well 1st/2nd week to fall off the weeks 3rd and 4th and why little impact on NZ/Aus teams with their shorter tours here (not to mention the difference between east to west travel vs west to east).
Heneke Meyer won SR trophies with this understanding, choosing to send the Bulls as late as possible on tour, not as early as possible, to try squeeze 3rd game in before the lag would start to hit.
How rugby somehow oblivious to the reality all these decades of professionalism vs other sports to this day boggles my mind.
The other joke is the nonsense of altitude. Neither Jhb or Pretoria are actually high enough for altitude to impact professional sportsman, its a mental block from amatuer days and the reality is that its about the harshness of the climate in winter in those areas vs the coast that actually hits the Aus and NZ players, its the dryness that causes that burn they describe, a dry, harsh climate not experienced in other tier rugby playing nations.
Aus want to win at Loftus/Ellis Park, they just need to go play some rugby in their backyard, the outback, instead of only along the coast.
 
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