The SA Politics Thread Part 3

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LOL

But anyway, yeah. I mean it'll be a big win for DA and Moonshot if they can take the ward. I also think IFP will keep blikseming ANC and EFF in KZN as they have been for the past year or so.

Yeah I had a quick check - I thought it may have been an old DA ward but in 2016 it was 56-31 in favour of the ANC as well so I'm doubting it was ever DA-held post-1994. Thank god the PA dumbasses aren't competing in this ward. Pure cringe.
 

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DA MP Leon Schreiber told Mail & Guardian on Saturday that the DA would not wait for something to go wrong before acting, adding that the party would rather identify any risks beforehand.


He said that South Africa was about to experience traumatic political change in the 2024 elections.


“We have had almost 30 years of one-party rule under the ANC, but we must never forget that even preceding democracy there was one-party rule for 40 years. We are looking at 70 years of entrenched culture — or the idea of South African politics that there is one dominant party in charge.


“The change of government we had in 1994 was a change in regime but it wasn’t a classic election loss in the sense of constitutional democracies around that world. It means that this would be — should the ANC fall below 50% and be removed from government — the very first time a government in the history of this country has been removed from the ballot box democratically in an election where everyone has voted. It has never happened before.”


Schrieber added that the DA also took into consideration the July unrest in 2021 and the occasional outbreaks of violence seen at political settings in the country.


He said that the resolution was something a responsible opposition should take seriously, and was not intended to “cause alarm or sow fear”.


Good move. Just in case.
 

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Zapiro has such a knack for being able to perfectly depict the true situations. This cartoon is exactly right. I'm unable to see Steenhuisen as a remotely credible & succinct leader.
 

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Low turnout here. ANC hold by a landslide (but it's MP so not too surprising). EFF dropped.


Turnout is more or less the same. IFP has 10% from 0%. EFF dropped here as well.


Low turnout here. ANC hold by a landslide. EFF drops. IFP skyrockets to 17% from 2%.

Higher turnout. EFF drops here as well. ANC too. Indy got a lot of support.

Lower turnout. Slight gain for EFF. ANC drop. Big gain for Indy.

Possible trends:

IFP making moves in MP.
EFF's momentum in MP is breaking down.
ANC is losing only slivers of support in MP.
 

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Low turnout here. ANC hold by a landslide (but it's MP so not too surprising). EFF dropped.


Turnout is more or less the same. IFP has 10% from 0%. EFF dropped here as well.


Low turnout here. ANC hold by a landslide. EFF drops. IFP skyrockets to 17% from 2%.

Higher turnout. EFF drops here as well. ANC too. Indy got a lot of support.

Lower turnout. Slight gain for EFF. ANC drop. Big gain for Indy.

Possible trends:

IFP making moves in MP.
EFF's momentum in MP is breaking down.
ANC is losing only slivers of support in MP.
And the Patriotic Alliance continues on its death spiral.
 

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And the Patriotic Alliance continues on its death spiral.

They won the most colored votes overall in JHB 2021. The ANC and DA will continue bleeding votes to them.

Tbh, they are the first real major party that have tried to put colored peoples interests at their core in their manifesto. Others like Khoisan Revolution etc were started by opportunists so I totally understand how and why they will pick up. It's for the same reasons the VF+ are growing because they put white Afrikaner's interests at their core.
 

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I think what the DA is doing here; with the coalition agreements an d"moonshot" is probably, one of their most important tasks in a long while. Without a stable government, we'd be ****ed.

We have to avoid an ANC/EFF situation at all costs IMHO. otherwise we will have nothing left by 2029.
 

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