The SA Politics Thread Part 3

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JuliusSeizure said:
In one of the threads, @noxibox mentioned passmark for Maths under Apartheid was 25% IIRC.
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Matric has always been overrated, many people just did the best they could and walked straight into Spoornet, Post Office, or any of the SOEs. The jobs also paid reasonably well and people were able to live dignified lives. Some old people on MyBb are just too full of stories, sometimes I suspect they claim all those high pass marks because they never got anywhere close to matric so they genuinely have no idea what are the pass marks.
 
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TheChamp said:
Open ended statements like when the law is broken are very useless, what exactly is the definition of that? Because it can take years to determine if a law was broken, they must just come out and say what they mean.
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It's actually a pretty easy test to see if someone has been convicted of a crime of a certain seriousness. Unfortunately Lesufi and co have made this look like a subjective thing. It is not.
 
Inertia said:
It's actually a pretty easy test to see if someone has been convicted of a crime of a certain seriousness. Unfortunately Lesufi and co have made this look like a subjective thing. It is not.
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That is easy enough, The way I am understanding it is that they are talking about a situation similar to Zuma motions, when someone is being accused of something but they have not been tried or convicted.

I am saying they should come out and pronounce on exactly what they mean because I know it's going to be one of those, "he/she is accused of a serious crime" countered by "but he/she is innocent until proven guilty"

We don't need the ambiguity.
 
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TheChamp said:
That is easy enough, The way I am understanding it is that they are talking about a situation similar to Zuma motions, when someone is being accused of something but they have not been tried or convicted.

I am saying they should come out and pronounce on exactly what they mean because I know it's going to be one of those, "he/she is accused of a serious crime" countered by "but he/she is innocent until proven guilty"

We don't need the ambiguity.
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These things almost always mean after a conviction. Anyone can accuse anyone else of breaking a law.
 
DentistGuy said:
Thank goodness good ol' USA saved the barbarians in Libya and Iraq by bringing them good ol' freedom and democracy.
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The Iraq war was all about oil. They well knew Saddam was a butcher of his own people but had no issue with him all those decades before until suddenly he started putting restrictions on their oil supply. Even when they captured him, it was for crimes hed commited several years before.

They also somehow were not afraid to invade Iraq for "weapons of mass destruction" but are afraid to invade nations with literal weapons of mass destruction.
 
cr@zydude said:
China's government is stable. They actually teach that democracy leads to instability and gridlock.
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Ah yes, because I say that the 1% threshold is necessary to bring back stability to councils, I'm now anti-democratic and love authoritarian regimes like China... :rolleyes:
 
PrimeSteak said:
Ah yes, because I say that the 1% threshold is necessary to bring back stability to councils, I'm now anti-democratic and love authoritarian regimes like China... :rolleyes:
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China is an extreme example, but raising the threshold is anti-democratic. If there are 400 seats, it should take about 0.25% of the vote to get a seat. What is correct about 1% and wrong about 50%?
 
cr@zydude said:
China is an extreme example, but raising the threshold is anti-democratic.
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Yet hilariously enough, some of the most democratic and liberal countries in the world use thresholds too. Are they now just as bad as an unironically one-party authoritarian regime?
cr@zydude said:
What is correct about 1% and wrong about 50%?
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If you have 1% of the vote, you at least have a solid/sizable constituency to show.

How can you truly have a constituency to show, when you only get 0.25% in a council like JHB or ETH?
 
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