The SA Vehicle Industry Thread

And South Africans settle for crap cars with everything as an option...sigh.

Driving in Germany with a full specced car as standard, what a pleasure.

Wish cars came with everything as standard, then you'd get more car for your buck.
 
Wonder why people prefer the VW Vivo rather than the Toyota Corolla Quest?
Badge. If you drive a VW you are the dog's bollocks. Anything else and you're just a pleb

Disclaimer: I drive a lovely little Hyundai econobox so I am most certainly a pleb :D
 
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How big are Hyundai and Kia in SA? Naamsa car sales reveals

You probably have a Korean Smartphone. You definitely own a Korean kitchen of bathroom appliance. The Korean industrialisation and product design project has matured in the last decade to a point where ‘made in Korea’ has become the Asian equivalent of ‘made in Germany’.

Then there are the cars produced by Hyundai and Kia. We’ve had them in South African for two decades now, and originally, they were awful. Then they became a bit better. Now, they’re suffocating many of the Japanese brands we assumed would once be unassailable.

Problem is, we never knew exactly where the popularity and demand curve for specific Korean cars were. See, Hyundai and Kia don’t report model specific sales figures for South Africa. Well, until now. With July 2017 automotive sales for South Africa tabled and collated we finally have two new brand entrants and very valuable market analysis they certainly do provide: Hyundai and Kia.

The numbers are big with the two Korean brands accounting for nearly 10% of the local market, 9.7% to be exact, ranking Hyundai as the fifth and Kia as the ninth biggest car brands in South Africa. It’s the individual sales which are really interesting, seeing what people are actually buying when the shop Korean.

Hyundai – a lot of little cars

With a larger range, you’d expect Hyundai to sell greater volumes than Kia, which it does, at 3035 units versus 1512.

It’s in the market between R120 000 and R400 000 that Hyundai delivers great volumes. How significant? Like 435 Tucsons significant, very nearly the same number of vehicles that Honda sold in total in June. In the market for compact SUVs, only Toyota sells more, with its RAV4 at 641 units.

Superminis are a great business, at impressive scale, for Hyundai, with 845 i10s sold, calculated by totalling the cumulative number of both the standard and slightly longer ‘Grand’ derivative. That’s massive.

Not everything Hyundai markets works, with the Veloster having sold only 3 units in July and the Sante Fe’s premium mid-sized SUV prices makes it a non-starter, moving only 8 vehicles. Hyundai’s Golf rival, the i30, only recorded 7 units in July 2017.

Although there are models which aren’t performing, most of Hyundai’s product portfolio is balanced and very much in demand for South African customers. Interestingly, these are also the segments, compact hatchbacks and SUVs, that were once dominated by Japanese brands, where now only mighty Toyota can keep the Koreans at bay.

Kia - smaller but selling the style

Hyundai’s sibling Kia, might have fewer passenger car models (seven as opposed to eleven), but its product portfolio isn’t quite as balanced.

Although Kia is doing well, nearly all its volume (85%) is sourced from two models - Picanto and Rio. Beyond these two, the numbers are tiny. Grand Sedona shows nobody is interested in MPVs anymore, selling only six, nor are people willing to pay premium for a Korean full-sized SUV, Sorento selling only 11.

The true surprises are Sportage and Soul, both attractive styled products with good engines, aimed at growth segments (one an SUV, the other a crossover), who both underachieve, with sales of only 62 and 11 units respectively. Kia’s South African business, is very much a hatchback one.

Korean Bakkies?

True. We tend to forget that both Hyundai and Kia market a line of bakkies in South Africa. Not double-cab 4x4s to rival Ranger or Hilux, but true utilitarian semi-flatbed bakkies. Kia sold 109 units of its K-Series bakkies last month, whilst Hyundai sold 269 H100 bakkies. Not a bad presence in the bakkie market, and with the promise of proper, leisure orientated bakkies to come from the Koreans, that total local market share of nearly 10% could easily double in the next decade.

http://www.wheels24.co.za/News/SA_v...d-kia-in-sa-naamsa-car-sales-reveals-20170802
 
I just took the 1st/middle/last cars and compared their entry level model prices.

The GO will cost roughly R1000+(minimum) less per month then the others.

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Badge. If you drive a VW you are the dog's bollocks. Anything else and you're just a pleb

Disclaimer: I drive a lovely little Hyundai econobox so I am most certainly a pleb :D

Might be biased, but imo a Quest is much better looking than Vivo.
 
And South Africans settle for crap cars with everything as an option...sigh.

Driving in Germany with a full specced car as standard, what a pleasure.

Wish cars came with everything as standard, then you'd get more car for your buck.

Again. German economy and SA economy are continents apart. People should stop comparing Apples with Oranges.

German unemployment rate : 3.9%
South African unemployment rate : 27.7%

German currency VS South african : 1 Euro cost R15.66
 
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Might be biased, but imo a Quest is much better looking than Vivo.

It does not matter, perceptions, perceptions, perceptions, it's mostly what drives sales figures, not necessarily the quality of the product. Just look how well the Go and the Kwid are doing.
 
It does not matter, perceptions, perceptions, perceptions, it's mostly what drives sales figures, not necessarily the quality of the product. Just look how well the Go and the Kwid are doing.
The only perception they have going for them is that they are the cheapest and mostly junk. So people that want I new car but can't really afford one buy them.
 
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The only perception they have going for them is that they are the cheapest and mostly jusk. So people that want I new car but can't really afford one buy them.

The only one? I get the feeling that you aren't being rational, let me remind you perceptions exist whether you like them or not, whether you believe in them or not. e.g your own perceptions that they are cheap and junk, what makes the difference is the popularity such perceptions command, your own for instance is not that popular because the Vivo is up there, meaning that other perceptions won the popularity contest.
 
The only one? I get the feeling that you aren't being rational, let me remind you perceptions exist whether you like them or not, whether you believe in them or not. e.g your own perceptions that they are cheap and junk, what makes the difference is the popularity such perceptions command, your own for instance is not that popular because the Vivo is up there, meaning that other perceptions won the popularity contest.

You mentioned the GO. What other perceptions does that have going for it?
I agree with you on the Vivo.
 
Suzuki Auto hits its best EVER sales month in SA…

Suzuki Auto South Africa says July saw it record its best-ever monthly sales result since its establishment in the country in 2008.

Last month, the local arm of the Japanese automaker registered a total of 744 vehicles in SA, some 68 units more than its previous record (achieved back in September 2014).

The bulk (732 units) of the sales came in the passenger vehicle segment, with 12 registrations added from the light commercial segment (nine Super Carry units and three Gypsy units).

The biggest contributor – as is usually the case within the Suzuki stable – was the outgoing Swift, which managed 337 units. The new Swift, meanwhile, is due to launch locally in the second quarter of 2018.

The Celerio (92) was next in line, with the new Ignis in third (76). The Baleno (69) and ever-green Jimny (64) also enjoyed a relatively solid month, while the Vitara (41), Ertiga (32), Ciaz (16) and Grand Vitara (5) made up the numbers.

“To hit a new record in a tough and declining market is the best confirmation possible that our sales and service support strategy is working. People are looking for affordable and trustworthy vehicles and Suzuki certainly delivers,” said André Venter, divisional head for sales and marketing at Suzuki Auto.

http://www.carmag.co.za/news_post/suzuki-auto-hits-its-best-ever-sales-month-in-sa/
 
New Car Sales in SA for July 2017

Although the local automotive industry remains under pressure, aggregate new vehicle sales showed positive improvements while exports recorded strong gains during the month of July 2017. Take a look at a summary of events for new car sales in South Africa.

New passenger car and Light Commercial Vehicle (LCV) sales reflected encouraging improvements while new vehicle exports recorded strong gains according to the National Association of Automobile Manufacturers of South Africa (NAAMSA).

The passenger car market, which represents two thirds of total sales volume, grew by 6.2%, contributing positively to an aggregate sales gain of 4.1%. Rudolf Mahoney, Head of Brand and Communications at WesBank said, “July’s sales performance can be attributed to positive changes in the underlying fundamentals in the market. We see this in our data, where the demand for new vehicle finance is up 9% this past month.”

WesBank also notes that vehicle manufacturers have taken advantage of a stronger Rand to directly pass value to consumers. This is seen in the number of attractive marketing incentives on offer to buyers in the new vehicle market.

In terms of top performers for the month, Toyota was the most popular car brand and the Hilux was the best-selling vehicle in South Africa. The Volkswagen Polo Vivo recorded strong sales to claim second place ahead of the Ford Ranger. Hyundai's sales figures were impressive too, with the brand currently positioned in fifth place on the overall sales chart with a market share of 6.5%. Hyundai's most popular models are the Grand i10, Creta and Tucson.

New Car Sales Summary for July 2017

Aggregate new car sales of 46 719 units up by 4.1% (1 849 units) compared with July 2016

New car sales of 30 826 units up by 6.2% (1 791 units) compared with July 2016

LCV sales of 13 774 units up by 1.7% (231 units) compared with July 2016

Export sales of 35 486 units up by 22.2% (6 456 units) compared to July 2016

Best selling cars for July 2017

1. Toyota Hilux - 3 100 units

2. Volkswagen Polo Vivo - 2 675 units

3. Ford Ranger - 2 300 units

4. Volkswagen Polo - 1 623 units

5. Toyota Corolla - 1 480 units

Best selling car brands for July 2017

1. Toyota - 10 137 units with a market share of 21.7%

2. Volkswagen - 7 386 units with a market share of 15.8%

3. Ford - 5 561 units with a market share of 11.9%

4. Nissan - 4 917 units with a market share of 10.5%

5. Hyundai - 3 035 units with a market share of 6.5%

New car sales outlook for 2017

According to NAAMSA, the domestic automotive industry, despite, tough economic conditions, is holding up relatively well but it notes that a lack of business and consumer confidence poses an ongoing challenge. Business, Government and Labour therefore need to take concerted steps to create a more investor-friendly environment in order to boost growth.

The recent interest rate reduction if 25 basis points will give consumers some relief while a stronger Rand has contributed to a reduction in headline inflation and new vehicle price inflation.

“With this past month’s 25 basis points drop in the interest rate, we anticipate that the economy is now in a cycle of rate cuts. Failing any shock events on the local or global stage, this is great news for the economy and new vehicle market” says Mahoney.

NAAMSA predicts a fairly flat performance for the overall market in 2017, similar to the levels experienced in 2016. Exports, however, should continue to benefit from global economic growth at about 3.5%.

http://www.cars.co.za/motoring_news/new-car-sales-in-sa-for-july-2017/43770/

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Again. German economy and SA economy are continents apart. People should stop comparing Apples with Oranges.

German unemployment rate : 3.9%
South African unemployment rate : 27.7%

German currency VS South african : 1 Euro cost R15.66

That may be so, but we pay a premium of 20% on cars made here just to support the MIDP!! And then everything is optional?? No new car for me, thanks!! The prices are stupid, and the sheeple just flock...
 
SA’S 13 WORST-SELLING CARS (UNDER R500K) OF JULY 2017

The monthly Naamsa stats generally make for rather interesting reading. But, naturally, we tend to focus on the best-performing vehicles in terms of sales.

Indeed, we’ve already reported the 10 best-selling passenger cars of July 2017, as well as listed the 10 best-selling bakkies in our market for the same period.

But now we’ve decided to take a look at the worst-selling passenger car models on our shores. Interestingly, Hyundai and Kia last month started reporting their individual model sales figures, which certainly helps to paint a more accurate monthly picture. But, of course, some other automakers (such as Mercedes-Benz and BMW, with Audi reportedly set to follow soon) still disclose only aggregate sales statistics.

Also, take note that – in order to make this list more relevant – we’ve excluded vehicle ranges that start at more than R500 000. Otherwise, this table would be dominated by luxury manufacturers such as Bentley, Ferrari and Maserati, whose high-priced vehicles traditionally sell in tiny numbers. We also don’t count sales from run-out stock of vehicles that have been discontinued locally (such as the third-generation Renault Mégane, which sold three units last month).

So, what happened in July 2017?

Well, Ford sold just a single unit of the B-Max (there is talk that production of the B-Max will cease later this year, but it’s still listed on Ford SA’s official price list, so we’ve included it here), while the Tata Vista, Toyota 86, Volkswagen Beetle and Volvo V60 managed just two units apiece.

The Alfa Romeo Giulietta, Hyundai Veloster (which recently had its local line-up pared down to two derivatives, with the axing of the naturally aspirated variants) and Mahindra Xylo could muster just three units each, while the Fiat 500X, Mazda MX-5 and new Subaru Impreza managed just four apiece. The Suzuki Grand Vitara (5) and Volvo S60 (5) rounded out the table.

Models that almost made the list included the Ford Fusion, Mitsubishi Mirage and Volkswagen Scirocco (each with six units), the Hyundai i30 (7), the Landwind X5 (8) and the Nissan NV200 (8).

For reference, see June’s list here.

South Africa’s 13 worst-selling passenger cars (under R500k) of July 2017:

Ford B-Max – 1
Tata Vista – 2
Toyota 86 – 2
Volkswagen Beetle – 2
Volvo V60 – 2
Alfa Romeo Giulietta – 3
Hyundai Veloster – 3
Mahindra Xylo – 3
Fiat 500X – 4
Mazda MX-5 – 4
Subaru Impreza – 4
Suzuki Grand Vitara – 5
Volvo S60 – 5

http://www.carmag.co.za/news_post/sas-13-worst-selling-cars-under-r500k-of-july-2017/
 
HOW MANY CARS FERRARI SOLD IN THE FIRST HALF OF 2017

Ferrari says it delivered 2 332 new vehicles in the second quarter of 2017, taking total sales for the first half of the year to 4 335 units.

This second quarter result represents a year-on-year improvement of 118 units or 5,3%, largely driven by a 36% increase in sales of V12 models. The Italian marque says sales of V8 models were “substantially in line with the prior year”.

The strong 12-cylinder performance was again led by the GTC4Lusso and LaFerrari Aperta, partially offset by the phasing out of the F12berlinetta and the F12tdf, with the latter “finishing its limited series run”. The 812 Superfast has yet to officially arrive on the market (but we already know how many are coming to South Africa), but Ferrari says it already has a waiting list “beyond 2018”.

In total, the Maranello brand plans to ship 8 400 vehicles in 2017, with a net revenue target of €3,3-billion.

A quick glance at the Naamsa statistics for the first half of 2017 (and the application of a little maths) reveals that Ferrari registered 41 units in South Africa in this time, including 17 units of the 488 Spider, 10 California models, 11 units of the 488 GTB, two units of the F12 and one example of the GTC4Lusso.

http://www.carmag.co.za/news_post/how-many-cars-ferrari-sold-in-the-first-half-of-2017/
 
Alfa is doing a very bad job at marketing the Giuletta as well as the Giulua, i've never seen a single advert from them, no billboard, nothing. The Datsun Go is better marketed than the Alfa.
 
That may be so, but we pay a premium of 20% on cars made here just to support the MIDP!! And then everything is optional?? No new car for me, thanks!! The prices are stupid, and the sheeple just flock...

Which we are thankful for, so that we have a source for the 1 to 3 year old vehicles we do buy, right?
 
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