TheChamp
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Maybe it's time Ford brought back the Bantam, the Chev UTE and the NP200 are having too much nice time in the sales charts.
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FiestaST
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supersunbird
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What was that number in say Oct last year...
FiestaST
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September 2016:
Kuga Sold: 154
http://s3-eu-west-1.amazonaws.com/c...oct-16-naamsa-vehicle-sales-flash-results.pdf
October 2016:
Kuga Sold: 187
http://s3-eu-west-1.amazonaws.com/c...h-results-vehicles-sales-for-october-2016.pdf
November 2016:
Kuga Sold: 199
http://s3-eu-west-1.amazonaws.com/c...flash-results-vehicles-sales-for-nov-2016.pdf
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No it will not freeze them. Not a chance in hell to be honest. Car prices go up at LEAST twice EVERY single year. Irrespective of what the rand/economy/politics etc is doing.
Lupus
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Yup I now see the Spark Campus is R140k. A car that was around R90k 3 years ago. I could actually sell my wifes Spark for the same price I bought it for 3 years ago.
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FiestaST
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It's a mixed bag for new-vehicle sales in February
Bakkies are booming but it's a bit of a bust for new-car sales, according to the latest Naamsa figures released yesterday.
Passenger cars moved 31 400 units in South Africa last month, reflecting a decline of 4.4% compared to February last year, while bakkies and light commercials sold 14 416 units to record a strong gain of 9.7% compared to the corresponding month in 2016.
With medium and heavy truck sales also up by respectively 8.5% and 6.1%, it left the total market idling along at the same rate as a year ago, with 48 113 units leaving showrooms last month compared to 48 144 in February 2016.
Similarly, February 2017 export sales were also virtually unchanged from last year and gained 0.2%, an increase of 65 vehicles over the 29 323 vehicles exported in February 2016.
Naamsa was cautiously optimistic that after a drop of around 11% in 2016, domestic new-vehicle sales could improve around 3.5% this year due to improving economic conditions.
It noted that key indicators such as the latest Purchasing Managers’ Index (PMI) and the Reserve Bank’s leading indicator – which had recorded an extraordinary improvement for five consecutive months – heralded the possibility of an improvement in South Africa’s medium term economic outlook.
"In addition, the easing of drought conditions and projected global economic growth of around 3.4% as well as continuing Rand strength which should benefit new vehicle pricing, represented factors which should contribute positively to sales of new motor vehicles over the medium term," said a Naamsa spokesman.
Interest rates are also forecast to remain unchanged throughout 2017 but affordability will continue to be an issue due to inflation, and new-vehicle prices are 9.7% higher than a year ago.
Demand for used vehicles slowed in February, with Wesbank reporting 5.3% fewer finance applications compared to the same month last year. According to Wesbank's figures, consumers who did finance vehicles also paid more: the average deal value for a new car was 8.8% higher, while the average car was 9% more expensive year-on-year.
“This is the first decline in demand we’ve seen for used vehicles and we will need more data to see if this is a trend for the year," said a Wesbank spokesman.
“However, consumer demand for used vehicles continues to outpace new vehicles by a factor of 2.4:1”.
The usual suspects topped the best-selling list of news cars and bakkies last month (see below) but getting a true picture of the market took another knock now that BMW became the latest carmaker to keep its monthly sales a secret, following the lead of Mercedes-Benz, Hyundai, and Kia. BMW SA will review its decision provided the other companies begin reporting their own sales.
TOP 15 SELLING NEW CARS AND BAKKIES IN FEBRUARY 2017 (excluding BMW, Hyundai, Kia, and Mercedes-Benz)
1 Toyota Hilux 3086
2 VW Polo Vivo 3017
3 Ford Ranger 2913
4 VW Polo 2462
5 Toyota Corolla/Auris/Quest 1717
6 Toyota Quantum 1451
7 Nissan NP300 Hardbody 1447
8 Nissan NP200 1327
9 Toyota Etios 1233
10 Toyota Fortuner 1092
11 Isuzu KB 1058
12 Ford Fiesta 1054
13 Chev Utility 833
14 Renault Sandero 681
15 Ford Focus 649
http://www.iol.co.za/motoring/its-a-mixed-bag-for-new-vehicle-sales-in-february-8004481
Bakkies are booming but it's a bit of a bust for new-car sales, according to the latest Naamsa figures released yesterday.
Passenger cars moved 31 400 units in South Africa last month, reflecting a decline of 4.4% compared to February last year, while bakkies and light commercials sold 14 416 units to record a strong gain of 9.7% compared to the corresponding month in 2016.
With medium and heavy truck sales also up by respectively 8.5% and 6.1%, it left the total market idling along at the same rate as a year ago, with 48 113 units leaving showrooms last month compared to 48 144 in February 2016.
Similarly, February 2017 export sales were also virtually unchanged from last year and gained 0.2%, an increase of 65 vehicles over the 29 323 vehicles exported in February 2016.
Naamsa was cautiously optimistic that after a drop of around 11% in 2016, domestic new-vehicle sales could improve around 3.5% this year due to improving economic conditions.
It noted that key indicators such as the latest Purchasing Managers’ Index (PMI) and the Reserve Bank’s leading indicator – which had recorded an extraordinary improvement for five consecutive months – heralded the possibility of an improvement in South Africa’s medium term economic outlook.
"In addition, the easing of drought conditions and projected global economic growth of around 3.4% as well as continuing Rand strength which should benefit new vehicle pricing, represented factors which should contribute positively to sales of new motor vehicles over the medium term," said a Naamsa spokesman.
Interest rates are also forecast to remain unchanged throughout 2017 but affordability will continue to be an issue due to inflation, and new-vehicle prices are 9.7% higher than a year ago.
Demand for used vehicles slowed in February, with Wesbank reporting 5.3% fewer finance applications compared to the same month last year. According to Wesbank's figures, consumers who did finance vehicles also paid more: the average deal value for a new car was 8.8% higher, while the average car was 9% more expensive year-on-year.
“This is the first decline in demand we’ve seen for used vehicles and we will need more data to see if this is a trend for the year," said a Wesbank spokesman.
“However, consumer demand for used vehicles continues to outpace new vehicles by a factor of 2.4:1”.
The usual suspects topped the best-selling list of news cars and bakkies last month (see below) but getting a true picture of the market took another knock now that BMW became the latest carmaker to keep its monthly sales a secret, following the lead of Mercedes-Benz, Hyundai, and Kia. BMW SA will review its decision provided the other companies begin reporting their own sales.
TOP 15 SELLING NEW CARS AND BAKKIES IN FEBRUARY 2017 (excluding BMW, Hyundai, Kia, and Mercedes-Benz)
1 Toyota Hilux 3086
2 VW Polo Vivo 3017
3 Ford Ranger 2913
4 VW Polo 2462
5 Toyota Corolla/Auris/Quest 1717
6 Toyota Quantum 1451
7 Nissan NP300 Hardbody 1447
8 Nissan NP200 1327
9 Toyota Etios 1233
10 Toyota Fortuner 1092
11 Isuzu KB 1058
12 Ford Fiesta 1054
13 Chev Utility 833
14 Renault Sandero 681
15 Ford Focus 649
http://www.iol.co.za/motoring/its-a-mixed-bag-for-new-vehicle-sales-in-february-8004481
supersunbird
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So about to 65 to 73% less? Hahaha, losers with bad PR personnel/CEO...
supersunbird
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2012 Figo only depreciated about R20 000 (aka 20%).
Lupus
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Yup we are being shafted.
MrGray
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Dismal economic growth and political policy uncertainty are the real reasons for this, the exchange rate and resulting car prices are just a side-effect. Barring the increased landed cost of cars, people pull back from committing to a large (mostly voluntary) expense when they have little certainty about the future, nutjob politicians are screaming about taking their land, and the government keeps screwing more tax out of them.
Colin62
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You'd think that with their land at risk, people would want a nice comfortable car to live in.
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Correction I think. A dealer could sell it for what you bought it for 3 years ago.
FiestaST
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SA car sales: Toyota dominates luxury SUVs in February
Toyota leads the way in the luxury SUV market during February 2017, reports Naamsa
The Toyota Prado outsold the Land Cruiser 200 by one solitary unit (103 vs. 102) to give the Japanese automaker a clear lead over its closest rival.
These two models are also the only ones to register triple digit figures.
Land Rover giving chase
Jaguar Land Rover South Africa had another strong month, with the Range Rover/Range Rover Sport in third registering 71 units for the automaker, followed by the Land Rover Discovery 4 (65) and Jaguar F-Pace (59).
The big and brass Jeep Grand Cherokee found 44 new owners, followed closely by the Volvo XC90 in seventh. Porsche only sold 36 Cayenne's in eighth place, leading the Volkswagen Group's charge ahead of the Audi Q7 (30 units) and VW Touareg (20) in tenth.
BMW X5, X6 exclusion
Naamsa says: BMW SA, with effect from February 1 2017, will report one aggregate sales number in respect of passenger car sales in the South African Market. BMW SA will review its decision provided all reporting companies report new vehicle sales numbers by market segment, vehicle type and channel (dealer sales, government sales, car rental sales and single units).
Top 10 best-selling luxury SUVs in February 2017: List by Naamsa
1. Toyota Prado 103
2. Toyota Land Cruiser 102
3. Range Rover/Sport 71
4. Land Rover Discovery 65
5. Jaguar F-Pace 59
6. Jeep Grand Cherokee 44
7. Volvo XC90 40
8. Porsche Cayenne 36
9. Audi Q7 30
10. Volkswagen Touareg 20
http://www.wheels24.co.za/News/SA_v...ta-dominates-luxury-suvs-in-february-20170302
Toyota leads the way in the luxury SUV market during February 2017, reports Naamsa
The Toyota Prado outsold the Land Cruiser 200 by one solitary unit (103 vs. 102) to give the Japanese automaker a clear lead over its closest rival.
These two models are also the only ones to register triple digit figures.
Land Rover giving chase
Jaguar Land Rover South Africa had another strong month, with the Range Rover/Range Rover Sport in third registering 71 units for the automaker, followed by the Land Rover Discovery 4 (65) and Jaguar F-Pace (59).
The big and brass Jeep Grand Cherokee found 44 new owners, followed closely by the Volvo XC90 in seventh. Porsche only sold 36 Cayenne's in eighth place, leading the Volkswagen Group's charge ahead of the Audi Q7 (30 units) and VW Touareg (20) in tenth.
BMW X5, X6 exclusion
Naamsa says: BMW SA, with effect from February 1 2017, will report one aggregate sales number in respect of passenger car sales in the South African Market. BMW SA will review its decision provided all reporting companies report new vehicle sales numbers by market segment, vehicle type and channel (dealer sales, government sales, car rental sales and single units).
Top 10 best-selling luxury SUVs in February 2017: List by Naamsa
1. Toyota Prado 103
2. Toyota Land Cruiser 102
3. Range Rover/Sport 71
4. Land Rover Discovery 65
5. Jaguar F-Pace 59
6. Jeep Grand Cherokee 44
7. Volvo XC90 40
8. Porsche Cayenne 36
9. Audi Q7 30
10. Volkswagen Touareg 20
http://www.wheels24.co.za/News/SA_v...ta-dominates-luxury-suvs-in-february-20170302
TheChamp
Honorary Master
Not bad at all for Jaguar.
TheChamp
Honorary Master
Compelling argument from BMW.
FiestaST
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SA's top-selling cars: Ford Mustang gallops away with sports car sales
The Ford Mustang is once again the best-selling sports car in South Africa.
According to Naamsa, 84 muscle cars were sold in February 2017, more than double the number of units compared to its closest competitor, the Porsche 911 (37).
Interestingly, if you add all sold units from positions two to nine in Naamsa's list, the figure (79 units) stills fall short of the Mustang's dominance in February.
Tough market conditions
The Porsche 718 Cayman/Boxster took a third spot with 17 units sold, ten more than the Jaguar F-Type (7) and Audi R8 (7) in fourth.
Nissan's desirable GT-R found four new owners in sixth place, as did the Ferrari 488 Spider in seventh.
Ferrari sold two Californias and a single 488 GTB sports car to grab 8th and ninth place respectively.
Top-selling sports cars in February 2017:
1. Ford Mustang 84 units
2. Porsche 911 37
3. Porsche Cayman/Boxster 17
4. Jaguar F-Type 7
5. Audi R8 7
6. Nissan GT-R 4
7. Ferrari 488 Spider 4
8. Ferrari California 2
9. Ferrari 488 GTB 1
http://www.wheels24.co.za/News/SA_v...g-gallops-away-with-sports-car-sales-20170303
The Ford Mustang is once again the best-selling sports car in South Africa.
According to Naamsa, 84 muscle cars were sold in February 2017, more than double the number of units compared to its closest competitor, the Porsche 911 (37).
Interestingly, if you add all sold units from positions two to nine in Naamsa's list, the figure (79 units) stills fall short of the Mustang's dominance in February.
Tough market conditions
The Porsche 718 Cayman/Boxster took a third spot with 17 units sold, ten more than the Jaguar F-Type (7) and Audi R8 (7) in fourth.
Nissan's desirable GT-R found four new owners in sixth place, as did the Ferrari 488 Spider in seventh.
Ferrari sold two Californias and a single 488 GTB sports car to grab 8th and ninth place respectively.
Top-selling sports cars in February 2017:
1. Ford Mustang 84 units
2. Porsche 911 37
3. Porsche Cayman/Boxster 17
4. Jaguar F-Type 7
5. Audi R8 7
6. Nissan GT-R 4
7. Ferrari 488 Spider 4
8. Ferrari California 2
9. Ferrari 488 GTB 1
http://www.wheels24.co.za/News/SA_v...g-gallops-away-with-sports-car-sales-20170303
FiestaST
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SA’S 10 BEST-SELLING PASSENGER CARS OF FEBRUARY 2017
February 2017’s aggregate new vehicle sales in South Africa came in at 48 113 units, virtually unchanged from the 48 144 vehicles sold in February last year. So, no massive decline, but no real growth, either.
As always, it’s interesting to take a look at what’s happening in terms of individual model sales. So, we’ve examined the figures released by the National Association of Automobile Manufacturers of South Africa (Naamsa), and picked out the ten best-selling passenger vehicles for the month (also, be sure to check out the 10 best-selling bakkies).
One must bear in mind that certain importers – such as Hyundai and Kia – do not submit individual model sales figures, instead only disclosing aggregate sales stats. Mercedes-Benz, too, has taken a similar stance. And, from February 2017, BMW SA has joined its German rival in reporting one aggregate sales number in respect of passenger car sales.
So, what happened in the second month of 2017? Well, the top four remained unchanged, which means the Volkswagen Polo Vivo and regular Polo took first and second, with Toyota’s combination of the Corolla, Auris and Corolla Quest (the brand reports an overall figure rather than individual model sales) in third and the Toyota Etios in fourth.
The Toyota Fortuner, however, climbed one place to fifth, forcing the Ford Fiesta down one to sixth. And the Renault Sandero returned to the table to grab seventh place, with the Ford Focus also making an re-appearance in eighth.
The Ford EcoSport fell one place to ninth, and the Toyota RAV4 one to tenth. The Renault Kwid (399) and Chevrolet Spark (226) thus fell out of the top ten.
Other odds and ends
Other interesting figures from February’s stats include the fact that two Abarth 124 Spider units were registered, along with nine Alfa Romeo Giulia units. The Ford Figo could manage just 271 sales, while the Kuga fell to a mere 57 units. The Everest, however, enjoyed a strong month, with 440 registrations (the Chevrolet Trailblazer, for the sake of comparison, managed 109).
Honda’s best-seller was the BR-V (206), followed by the Brio (167) and HR-V (153), while Mazda’s solid showing continued, with contributions from the CX-5 (296), CX-3 (288), Mazda2 (230) and Mazda3 (222).
Nissan’s top performer was the X-Trail with 279 units, which managed to outsell even the Datsun GO (257), while the Almera added a further 216 units to the Japanese automaker’s cause. Peugeot’s tough time in South Africa continued, with just 23 units registered in the month.
As is so often the case, the Swift (248) proved to be Suzuki’s top-seller, with the Celerio (103) next in line and the new Baleno (78) after that. Volkswagen sold a solid 489 units of the Golf, while the Tiguan (370), too, enjoyed a strong February. And some 50 units of the new Audi Q50 were also registered.
See the top ten table below (and have a look back at January’s figures here):
South Africa’s 10 best-selling passengers cars of February 2017:
1. Volkswagen Polo Vivo – 3 017
2. Volkswagen Polo – 2 462
3. Toyota Corolla/Auris/Quest – 1 717
4. Toyota Etios – 1 233
5. Toyota Fortuner – 1 092
6. Ford Fiesta – 1 054
7. Renault Sandero – 681
8. Ford Focus – 649
9. Ford EcoSport – 644
10. Toyota RAV4 – 612
http://www.carmag.co.za/news_post/sas-10-best-selling-passenger-cars-of-february-2017/
February 2017’s aggregate new vehicle sales in South Africa came in at 48 113 units, virtually unchanged from the 48 144 vehicles sold in February last year. So, no massive decline, but no real growth, either.
As always, it’s interesting to take a look at what’s happening in terms of individual model sales. So, we’ve examined the figures released by the National Association of Automobile Manufacturers of South Africa (Naamsa), and picked out the ten best-selling passenger vehicles for the month (also, be sure to check out the 10 best-selling bakkies).
One must bear in mind that certain importers – such as Hyundai and Kia – do not submit individual model sales figures, instead only disclosing aggregate sales stats. Mercedes-Benz, too, has taken a similar stance. And, from February 2017, BMW SA has joined its German rival in reporting one aggregate sales number in respect of passenger car sales.
So, what happened in the second month of 2017? Well, the top four remained unchanged, which means the Volkswagen Polo Vivo and regular Polo took first and second, with Toyota’s combination of the Corolla, Auris and Corolla Quest (the brand reports an overall figure rather than individual model sales) in third and the Toyota Etios in fourth.
The Toyota Fortuner, however, climbed one place to fifth, forcing the Ford Fiesta down one to sixth. And the Renault Sandero returned to the table to grab seventh place, with the Ford Focus also making an re-appearance in eighth.
The Ford EcoSport fell one place to ninth, and the Toyota RAV4 one to tenth. The Renault Kwid (399) and Chevrolet Spark (226) thus fell out of the top ten.
Other odds and ends
Other interesting figures from February’s stats include the fact that two Abarth 124 Spider units were registered, along with nine Alfa Romeo Giulia units. The Ford Figo could manage just 271 sales, while the Kuga fell to a mere 57 units. The Everest, however, enjoyed a strong month, with 440 registrations (the Chevrolet Trailblazer, for the sake of comparison, managed 109).
Honda’s best-seller was the BR-V (206), followed by the Brio (167) and HR-V (153), while Mazda’s solid showing continued, with contributions from the CX-5 (296), CX-3 (288), Mazda2 (230) and Mazda3 (222).
Nissan’s top performer was the X-Trail with 279 units, which managed to outsell even the Datsun GO (257), while the Almera added a further 216 units to the Japanese automaker’s cause. Peugeot’s tough time in South Africa continued, with just 23 units registered in the month.
As is so often the case, the Swift (248) proved to be Suzuki’s top-seller, with the Celerio (103) next in line and the new Baleno (78) after that. Volkswagen sold a solid 489 units of the Golf, while the Tiguan (370), too, enjoyed a strong February. And some 50 units of the new Audi Q50 were also registered.
See the top ten table below (and have a look back at January’s figures here):
South Africa’s 10 best-selling passengers cars of February 2017:
1. Volkswagen Polo Vivo – 3 017
2. Volkswagen Polo – 2 462
3. Toyota Corolla/Auris/Quest – 1 717
4. Toyota Etios – 1 233
5. Toyota Fortuner – 1 092
6. Ford Fiesta – 1 054
7. Renault Sandero – 681
8. Ford Focus – 649
9. Ford EcoSport – 644
10. Toyota RAV4 – 612
http://www.carmag.co.za/news_post/sas-10-best-selling-passenger-cars-of-february-2017/
MrGray
Honorary Master
Interesting, the 2 star Euro NCAP safety rating is obviously not deterring buyers.
TheChamp
Honorary Master
It just adds to the legendary status.