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The Tesla-killers are coming

When the call came, Robert Wickel wasted little time.

The subject? Reservations for Porsche’s all-electric Taycan were coming, even though the vehicle wouldn’t enter production until next year. Buying Tesla Inc.’s Model S, available for the past six years, had always been an option but lacked the allure of the first battery-powered car from the iconic German sportscar-maker.

[Bloomberg]
 
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/me looking for same articles written about the iPhone after 2007. ;)
 
I wonder if the Tesla superchargers will charge other cars...
 
I had a test drive of the Nio ES8 last week.

Quite impressed. Not quite impressed enough to put the money down, as the first cars have teething trouble, but definitely getting an electric for my next car.

Can upload some photos and video of my test drive if people are interested.

https://www.nio.com/es8

Uploaded some photos here - https://www.flickr.com/photos/sheedl/albums/72157700074793045

Video's not playing nice for upload, so unless people *really* want to see, not bothering.
 
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Well Samsung and Huawei surpassed Apple in the Smartphone segment, pushing the iPhone down to 3rd place in terms of numbers sold.

And this is despite Apple being much much better at production and distribution than Tesla.

Not withstanding, Nissan/Renault are the largest EV vehicle manufacturer by market share.
 
And this is despite Apple being much much better at production and distribution than Tesla.

Not withstanding, Nissan/Renault are the largest EV vehicle manufacturer by market share.


Really? I would have thought that BYD were by far the largest.
They sold more electric cars than anyone else in 2017, 2016, 2015...

https://insideevs.com/byd-1-world-plug-in-electric-car-sales-beats-tesla/

Worldwide China is by far the largest market.

https://www.mckinsey.com/industries...ynamics-in-the-global-electric-vehicle-market
 
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Well Samsung and Huawei surpassed Apple in the Smartphone segment, pushing the iPhone down to 3rd place in terms of numbers sold.

Considering Apple don’t sell any cheap budget phones your comment is pretty stupid, numbers sold will always favour the seller with lots of budget and midrange models.

What’s that comparison like in terms of revenue from smartphone sales?
 
Considering Apple don’t sell any cheap budget phones your comment is pretty stupid, numbers sold will always favour the seller with lots of budget and midrange models.

What’s that comparison like in terms of revenue from smartphone sales?
Apple don't care, well sort of, they still take a large chunk of the revenue in the segment they compete in. Not that they'd not mind if Samsung and Huawei dropped dead and left more of the market to them alone. Those other makers do keep Apple honest. In the Tesla example it's a bit different as it looks like it's still a bit hard to turn a profit. The person who can mass sell will win the electric car race. Makes you wonder why the leading German makers making money don't enter the space in earnest
 
Well Samsung and Huawei surpassed Apple in the Smartphone segment, pushing the iPhone down to 3rd place in terms of numbers sold.

And yet it’s not all about total sales as the iPhone makes more profit overall.

Porsche is in that same segment where it’s not really about sales volume but rather profit and experience per car.

They want lifers.
 
And yet it’s not all about total sales as the iPhone makes more profit overall.

Porsche is in that same segment where it’s not really about sales volume but rather profit and experience per car.

They want lifers.

Completely agree.
 
Not as far as I know.

But even if they did I’m sure you’ll be charged for it unlike when driving a Tesla.
AFAIK it's only the more expensive Teslas that get free charging.
 
Not as far as I know.

But even if they did I’m sure you’ll be charged for it unlike when driving a Tesla.
Tesla should allow it. Elon wants to push mankind forward, he's open sourced battery tech, would make sense to open the chargers too
 
Tesla should allow it. Elon wants to push mankind forward, he's open sourced battery tech, would make sense to open the chargers too

And yet the parts and servicing on Tesla is not "open source". A Tesla is just about top of my list of want cars. The S is a thing of beauty for me. But I am not sure I ageree on all Elon's ideas.

Loving the Golf GTE I'm driving, so the logical next step would be full electric.
 
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